RE: Security Certifications

["Warner, Randy" <rwarner () rightnow com>]

I'm in total agreement, in fact those were my sentiments in my email
response to GIAC.  While I'm also hoping that Mr. Northcutt is
monitoring this list, I'm also hoping that GIAC certified professionals
are responding directly to GIAC to let them know how very disappointed
we all are with this.

Randy Warner, GCUX


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Parker [mailto:dparker () bridonsecurity com] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 5:45 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com; Nathaniel Hall
Subject: Re: Security Certifications

I seriously doubt that I will renew my two certs with GIAC. Cannot
adequately

express how disappointed I am with the watering down of them. This is
not the

first time GIAC has made these certs easier. Hopefully Mr. Northcutt is

subscribed to this list.



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Don Parker, GCIA GCIH

Intrusion Detection & Incident Handling Specialist

Bridon Security & Training Services

http://www.bridonsecurity.com

voice: 1-613-302-2910

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On Mon Mar 14 12:05 , Nathaniel Hall  sent:



> I just found out about this too.  I can understand how this would make 

> it easier to get the certification too, but it still requires money and


> renewal.  Not everybody would be willing to renew every two or four 

> years  unless they really wanted to put forth the effort.  Hopefully we


> will see some changes that will keep the certs as a prestigious 

> accomplishment.

>

> Don Parker wrote:

> > GIAC has recently made massive changes to their certifications. You
now only have

> >

> > to do the exams as there is no more practical portion. A poor
decision on their

> >

> > part in my opinion for this is what made them stand apart from the
other certs.

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Don Parker, GCIA GCIH

> >

> > Intrusion Detection & Incident Handling Specialist

> >

> > Bridon Security & Training Services

> >

> > http://www.bridonsecurity.com

> >

> > voice: 1-613-302-2910

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat Mar 12 15:31 , Nathaniel Hall  sent:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Mike B wrote:

> >

> >

> > > > Hello Everybody,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > I just finished my master's degree in Information Security from
Stevens 

> >

> >

> > > > Institute of Technology and I am looking to get my first security 

> >

> >

> > > > certification.  I've read about the many security certifications out


> >

> >

> > > > there, and I have decided to go with the Security+ certification
from 

> >

> >

> > > > CompTIA.  How does everybody feel about this certification?  I
would've 

> >

> >

> > > > rather tried to get the CISSP but you need experience for that, and 

> >

> >

> > > > that's something that I don't have right now.  Is this a good first 

> >

> >

> > > > certification in the Information Security Field or are there better
ones?

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> > > > Mike B.

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> >

> >

> > > Personally, I would go for the GSEC from GIAC.  Visit www.sans.org to


> >

> >

> > > find out when training is.  Unfortunately, the class and cert is
about 

> >

> >

> > > $3100.  It isn't the easiest to get, but if you put in the time and 

> >

> >

> > > effort, you get a cert that not everyone gets from an organization
that 

> >

> >

> > > is looked up to for security.

> >

> >

> >

> > > -- 

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> >

> > > Nathaniel Hall, GSEC

> >

> >

> > > Intrusion Detection and Firewall Technician

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> >

> > > Ozarks Technical Community College -- Office of Computer Networking

> >

> >

> >

> > > halln () otc edu

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> >

> > > 417-447-7535

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> > > GPG Public Key ID: 0xAC187312

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> -- 

>

> Nathaniel Hall, GSEC

> Intrusion Detection and Firewall Technician

> Ozarks Technical Community College -- Office of Computer Networking

>

> halln () otc edu

> 417-447-7535

> GPG Public Key ID: 0xAC187312

>