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RE: preventing run-as option


From: "Lariviere, Stephen" <Stephen.Lariviere () CITIZENSBANK com>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:48:52 -0400

I tend to like system enforced policy vs. verbal (threats). The question
was how is it disabled, not 'what do you think of our poor security
practices'; however; obviously, that is the underlying issue but it
still doesn't address the security posture that is allowing the access.

Someone mentioned this article: http://www.petri.co.il/disable_runas.htm

It merely disables the GUI and not the daemon or the access controls. A
clever user could still shell to dos and run the runas.exe command...
scripted even.

Someone else mentioned proxy filtering which in this case might be a
good idea (given it is an added layer of complexity and
variably-dependant on Vijay's current access strategy) but if they are
using each others credentials what is to say that they wouldn't use an
other 'persons' IP address or their PC even... I guess who cares at that
point, right?

Disable runAs all together. It is bad unless you have an exceptional
justification for it.

Can use GPO to restrict access to software C:\windows\system32\runas.exe

Or

Can use GPO to dissallow the 'Secondary Logon Service' from starting. 

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Clinton E. Troutman
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:30 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: preventing run-as option

On Friday 06 October 2006 02:16, vijay shetti wrote:
hello all!!!

In my company we have domain based environment...In our proxy access
permissions are given based on the name of the user and only few users
are given rights to view a set of sites like email sites...

For example employee A is given the permission and B does not have
that.What B does is that he runs Internet explorer using run-as option
and gives A's credentials...This way he is able to surf websites that
he is not given permission to.

Is there any option using which I can disable run-as option...


From your description, your problem is not runas...

Your problem is that user B has user A's credentials. That is the
security 
breach.

Prevent any user from having any other user's credentials. Problem
solved.
Perhaps by instituting negative consequences for giving your credentials
to 
another user...??

-- 
Clinton E. Troutman

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