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Re: How to deal with unused registered public IP subnets


From: krymson () gmail com
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:30:58 -0600

I don't see any replies yet, so I'll throw down something. :)

1) I think you're on the right track with trying to give those unused IPs back, especially if you're being charged for 
them. Keep in mind this is not always as easy as it might sound, as they might be part of a package. Ask your 
networking guy and if he gives you a look and begins a lecture on how to subnet and why breaking these up is bad, walk 
away. :) But if you approach mgmt, I think your only real argument is that these may cost you money yearly. (Of course, 
it may cost more money for you to take your time to get them returned!)

2) I'm not sure how these IPs can be used for malware/spyway. Typically IP addresses can be "evil" because something is 
behind it. Unless your ISP has made a mistake and given those IPs to someone else, there's really nothing else that can 
be done with them barring routing mishaps. So, let's just assume these addresses are properly owned, routed, and 
nothing is behind them. They terminate at your border and that's it.

3) What do you do with them? Well, likely they already terminate on your edge devices whether you know it or not. It 
might not hurt to NAT them over to an internal, dedicated, hardened box and just have it sniff for incoming traffic. 
You could set yourself up a nice honeypot or just a listener. If those IPs have never hosted anything, all you should 
see if the normal white noise from the net...which itself can be an important health indicator. You could maybe even 
tell when someone else is scanning your owned net range, and if you feel curious, even blackhole them. You can do all 
sorts of curious stuff if you have the time and do it safely without jeopardizing your company's assets. If you're a 
member of a SOC, I'd totally pen this sort of a listener in as a rainy-day project.

4) Future use. There is nothing terribly wrong with keeping a range for future use. One could argue that at any time 
your company, email, or servers may find their way onto a blacklist (warranted or not). It might be easier to just redo 
DNS and move your services over than eat the downtime and effort required to remove yourself from them. It certainly is 
not a bad thing to have some options in your back pocket.

At any rate, there's some discussion for ya. If anyone else has thoughts or what they've done with such unused space, 
I'm up for further ideas!



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Hello list,

Recently, in an external assessment effort, we found a list of 
public IP subnets registered under my company's name. However, about 
half of them are no longer in use. I could only guessed that they 
were leftovers from mergers/acquisitions in the past. Being a good 
Internet citizen, I would release these unused subnets since there's 
a worldwide shortage of IPv4 addresses. However, bringing this point 
forward to the management is rather tricky -- because they think 
these are still company's property, keep for future expansion and so on.

There are possibilities that these unused IP subnets/addresses being 
used for malicious intent (spyware, scam, trojan propagation, 
spoofing). What other risks are there with us retaining these IP 
subnets/addresses?

What do other companies do with unused IP subnets/addresses? Do they 
just release them or keep them for future needs?

Thank you,

JW


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