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RE: security advice
From: "Murda" <murdamcloud () bigpond com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:20:50 +1000
Hey Edmund, First and foremost I will commend your honesty. Unfortunately, the fear of reprimand can often cloud this area so much that people begin lying to cover themselves; which then means that resolutions are harder to achieve. This candour is exactly what is needed when investigating and responding to an incident. Also make sure you document everything you did and do(as much as is reasonable). I think you would still benefit from having an image of the machine taken-even now. Is the server back in 'service' as before? You may even need to check what other nodes it is connected to in order to widen the investigation. Maybe it was the firewall that let things in, maybe the attack was launched from the inside(unwittingly or not). Lots of maybes at the moment. I hope the email server was properly segregated from the rest of the network. The fact is panic sets in and makes us do some weird things-it is normal. Don't beat yourself up about that. Which is why having a plan in place before these things happens really help. Mistakes are great to learn from-often more so than getting things 'right'. (I'm an expert in how little I know and how numerous my mistakes sometimes used to be. Ever tried pulling drives from a RAID without labeling their order? Poured coffee on a backup tape? Left a laptop next to an open window during a storm? Hit reset without saving a config?). I'm like the precedent case that Murphy's Law usually refers to. The feeling of having my heart sink like the Titanic is a great driver for improvement. In the Land of Murphy, backup is often (not always) the magic lasrever spell. Maybe check out some books on incident response to give you some guidelines for what to do next time(there's always a next time). I find that apportioning blame is never quite as useful as assuming responsibility, which you appear to have done. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Edmund Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:17 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: security advice Hi, Just yesterday, I found out that my company's e-mail server had been compromised. This fact, for some reasons, didn't seem to be a 'big deal' to others. I'm still stunned; but, considering how lax I had become, it shouldn't be surprising. *sigh* [story mode] Basically, the incident started out with an innocuous "there is something wrong with sending e-mail" from a co-worker. I looked at the e-mail server and everything seemed to be ok, so I decided to check the firewall. That's when I noticed it was running very sluggish. "Uh oh." I couldn't figure out which program was making it go slow. I thought it was the proxy, but it wasn't. I rebooted the firewall. It was ok, up until a certain point and that's when it slowed down. I tcpdump'd one ethernet nic, and noticed a huge amount of packets being sent to a remote site from my e-mail server. (Capital UH OH) Checking out the |ps ax| I noticed a very suspicious file "./s <ip#>". Immediately I knew someone had accessed the system. I started to become a little panicky. I searched for the './s' file. Then looking up online, I found that I could go into the /proc filesystem and find the pid and then the exe will be shown. Found the full path. Looking at the files within the folder "/var/tmp/.b", it was confirmed. I shouldn't have done what I did next. I killed the running program and deleted the folder. :( In hindsight, I should have killed the program and zipped up the darn folder for analysis. I'm still regretting that move. *banging head on table* Cleaned up a few extra items and it seems normal. I ran 'rkhunter' and filled out the necessary warnings it found. [story mode off] I'm still very reprimanding myself for being so careless. This is one lesson that I gotta have imprinted in my thick skull. Anyway, given this lesson, can someone offer any methodologies/programs that I can use to protect the company system? I'm now going through the firewall rules to find out what holes the intruder might have entered through. Thanks. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Securing Apache Web Server with thawte Digital Certificate In this guide we examine the importance of Apache-SSL and who needs an SSL certificate. We look at how SSL works, how it benefits your company and how your customers can tell if a site is secure. You will find out how to test, purchase, install and use a thawte Digital Certificate on your Apache web server. 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Throughout, best practices for set-up are highlighted to help you ensure efficient ongoing management of your encryption keys and digital certificates. http://www.dinclinx.com/Redirect.aspx?36;4175;25;1371;0;5;946;e13b6be442f727d1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: security advice Todd Haverkos (Aug 24)
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- Re: security advice Erik (Aug 26)
- RE: security advice Andrei Popescu (Aug 25)
- RE: security advice Murda (Aug 25)
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- RE: security advice Grant, Richard (KYTC) (Aug 25)
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