RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools

["Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin () commonwealthcare org>]

I would say that nothing is perfect in this world. The opinion below sounds as not professional. Even careful 
consideration of Gartner research of 2011 will show that ArcSight, Q1Labs and NitroSecurity are very close in Gartner 
used parameters/capabilities. Not to mention a few others. Each has own approach, but features and capabilities are 
very close. People consider that Q1Lab is much easier to install and use than ArcSight. There are some examples when 
people switch from ArcSight to other products because of complexity of ArcSight management and configuration. 
AlienVault, for instance, is the leader in installations, by the information on their site, but I would not expect them 
cheating. As far as I remember, ArcSight does not provide such very important feature as "external database logging". 
This is actually my term. It means that database logs are extracted from either network traffic or from internal 
transactions, and which is 10 times better than any original database logging. For instance, you can catch SQL 
injection.  NitroSecurity does that, and, BTW, has IDS/IPS completely integrated with other appliances.
This list can continue for dozens of pages. The point is - there is no ideal solution, and this is NOT money issue at 
all. 


Mikhail Utin, CISSP
Information Security Analyst




-----Original Message-----
From: Anwar Khan [mailto:anwarrhce () gmail com] 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 11:57 PM
To: Ron McKown
Cc: Mikhail A. Utin; Marian Paun; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools

Hi All,

I would say, if you have budget and looking for long time solution, ArcSight is best as we are using it.

All competitors have limitations and drawbacks, not ArcSight.



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Ron McKown <RMcKown () apptio com> wrote:
> Mikhail,
>
> I would very much like to see your SIEM research paper.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Ron McKown, CISSP
> - Sent from a tablet device
>
> On May 4, 2012, at 9:56 AM, "Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin () commonwealthcare org> wrote:
>
> > By my research, and a couple of published in 2011 reviews, all ArcSight competitors provide very similar features 
> > and capabilities. They reached the point where they can only improve, but not invent or develop something really 
> > different. I would not trust Gartner in its research (they rated ArcSight as top of the line product) and the Magic 
> > Quadrant as well. Guys were missing point very often. Each SIEM vendor has its own approach how to create a line of 
> > SIEM products. Almost all are appliances. There are just a few software providing vendors. Almost all have 
> > "all-in-one" low end appliance solution.
> >
> > Yes, HP got ArcSight to use in its services, which are expensive, and that started affecting the company's 
> > "technical" position. BTW, two other major vendors - Q1Lab and NitroSecurity are not independent anymore as well.
> >
> > If the list is interested, I can polish my SIEM research draft and publish it.
> >
> > Mikhail Utin, CISSP
> > Information Security Analyst
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listbounce () securityfocus com 
> > [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Marian Paun
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:37 AM
> > To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> > Subject: RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
> >
> > We had several years experiente with Quest Intrust and were not very 
> > impressed by it (huge performance issues when the event rate or 
> > number of event sources grow above a certain threshold, ridiculous 
> > correlation capabilities, administration nightmare). For around one 
> > year and half we are using Arcsight and are delighted with it. It 
> > _is_ expensive, but great value for money. Not very sure if the 
> > product will keep up after Arcsight was purchased by HP :(
> >
> > Marian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listbounce () securityfocus com 
> > [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Andy Smith
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:04 AM
> > To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> > Subject: Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
> >
> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM, john dow <guest01 () gmail com> wrote:
> > > If money is not a concern, I would recommend Check Point. We have 
> > > quite a big Check Point deployment as well as Juniper Firewalls, 
> > > Phion/Baracuda Firewalls and some Cisco Firewalls (ASA, PIX). Check 
> > > Point has by far the best tools for managing a centralized deployment.
> > > Even their IPS-blade is much better now that I has been before. For 
> > > log analysis you could use Check Point Eventia Reporter and with 
> > > Tufin, you can do much more, e.g. track changes, compliance, ...
> > > I am not a Check Point guy and I regularly complain about Check 
> > > Point myself, but it is definitely the best package I have experienced yet.
> >
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