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Re: Fun with IP Identification Field Values (Identifying Older MS Based OSs)
From: Denis Ducamp <Denis.Ducamp () HSC FR>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 04:23:02 +0200
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 11:21:55PM -0700, Ofir Arkin wrote:
RFC 791 gives a description about the IP Identification field.
...
The first ICMP Echo request sent from the Microsoft NT 4 based machine was sent with IP ID of 28416. The second ICMP Echo request was sent with IP ID value of 28672. Simple calculation will show a gap of 256 between the IP ID field values. Looking at the replies the LINUX based machine produced, we see a gap of 1 between one IP ID to the next.
This is know since a long time that Microsoft switched (or forgot to) bytes in its IPID, look at the -W option in hping2 <http://www.kyuzz.org/antirez/hping.html>
How Can We Use This? We can use this information as another parameter for Active OS fingerprinting and for Passive OS fingerprinting.
And a lot of crackers do use it to actively/passively fingerprinting
systems.
Another important use is to count the number of packets sents by a remote
system : send a packet per second and you know how many... This permit a
much more important use : to scan remote systems by spoofing its address.
Again look at the hping documentation and the bugtraq archive to know how.
Now some systems protects against been used to spoof-scan :
. OpenBSD and IPFilter(*) : IPID are random
. Linux 2.4.x : IPID is null if the packet is small enought to be carried
unfragmented in which case the DF (don't fragment) bit is set
. others perhaps ?
(*) Only IPID generated by IPFilter are random which correspond to reset
packets and icmp unreachable messages, other packets are generated by
the underlying TCP/IP stack.
Regards,
Denis Ducamp.
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Current thread:
- Fun with IP Identification Field Values (Identifying Older MS Based OSs) Ofir Arkin (May 07)
- Re: Fun with IP Identification Field Values (Identifying Older MS Based OSs) marvin (May 11)
- Re: Fun with IP Identification Field Values (Identifying Older MS Based OSs) Denis Ducamp (May 11)
- Re: Fun with IP Identification Field Values (Identifying Older MSBased OSs) Crist Clark (May 15)
- Re: Fun with IP Identification Field Values (Identifying Older MS Based OSs) Aaron Campbell (May 11)
