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Re: Can Dave be cloned?
From: Matt Hargett <matt () use net>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:06:48 +0000
Michael Murray wrote:
While it may seem extreme to do that many interviews, it was worth every minute of it. We also managed to strike a good mix of experienced engineers and more than a few of the 'potentials' that others were talking about. On the topic of potential: if I have to choose, I'll take an insatiable curiosity and an ability to soak up new knowledge like a sponge over formal a CS education any day. You can teach somebody to code. You can't teach somebody to WANT to code.
You also can't teach a "cowboy" (as I call them) to produce quality code consistently, in my experience. I've had decent results in pairing junior cowboys with senior folks, but I learned at previous companies not to hire someone just because that have m4d sk1llz. At least, not in a product development or sysadmin context; maybe in the research/exploit dev context, this makes more sense. (Or I'm just stupid.)
Just mentioning pair programming (or test-driven development) tends to be a good filter. People with no humility will have a kneejerk reaction just at its' mention. You can go super-fast and poop out a bunch of code in a weekend, wrap it up and try to sell it. Good luck with maintenance and support, though. Also good luck keeping cowboys interested in anything for more than a few months at a time.
Speed and drive doesn't necessarily mean ingenuity or being consistent. The latter have been more important to me lately, but that just for my business and projects.
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