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Re: Re: Exactly 500 word essay on "Why hacking is cool, so that Marcus changes his web site"
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:47:41 +0100 (BST)
In terms specific to this discussion, what if your struggle is not against a government, but rather against the "free market" corporations that hold sway over that government? In that context, where consumer credit is the gold standard of business, personal information is currency, and crucial systems are only crucial for ongoing profit, any compromise that disrupts the norms of business is a strike for freedom. Any compromise that shows an individual how vulnerable they are to the whims of business is a strike for freedom.
Any action that disrupts the people who seek to damage other people, is a strike for freedom. This is why people like us cooperate to disrupt the disrupters.
And a reminder - political history is written by the victors, and only sums up the obvious. That failed, fallen, and disfavored dictatorships always went down in history as physically coercive merely means that is what they were remembered for. And yes, violence is a very effective means of coercion. But so is societal suppression, newspeak and, my favorite, the American Dream.
And a reminder - the attacks that I see are 100% for-profit, and that's not according to "the victors", that's according to my own logs. The people who systematically capture control of other people's computers, are using them entirely for personal gain. The concept of the "Freedom fighter hacker" is entirely imaginary.
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