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Re: updating an icon
From: Jared DeMott <demottja () msu edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:25:36 -0400
At BlackHat the folks from Mandiant discussed some attacks that had been fairly cleaver (and entertaining!). If memory servers, they talked about 3rd party development back doors, reshipping attacks to Africa, penny stock inflation fraud, etc. So the question is are those attacks more or less sophisticated than Mitnicks TCP/IP sequence guessing attacks? You can't compare money today and 50 years ago without accounting for inflation. Should there by some sort of technical curve for such comparison. Further more, who really cares? Crime is crime. But I guess the guys in incident response care. :) dan () geer org wrote:
Forgive me if this is obvious (RTFM), but is there any update to the iconic picture that purports to show that skill required to threaten falls as tools get better? By iconic, I mean reprinted over and over and cited sort of by everybody. 2002 original document http://www.cert.org/archive/pdf/02sr009.pdf one example of the picture alone http://www.processor.com/images/Editorial/fullsize/00886313.jpg That is what I am asking -- is there an update somewhere or, for that matter, argue with the original if you want. Taking the picture at face value, the skill required should have asymptotically reached zero a while ago, etc. --dan _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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