Re: FireEye is sad.

[Steve <steve () 44con com>]

Guys please can we not discuss this, I'd hate people to think that freedom of speech should trump fireeye's proprietary 
IP, built almost entirely on codebases written by others...

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> On 11 Sep 2015, at 14:27, Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:
>
> The real question in security is always how to play Poker against an
> opponent who can see all your cards.
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/09/10/fireeye-slammed-over-injunction/
> https://lists.immunityinc.com/pipermail/dailydave/2013-March/000353.html
>
> In a way our "IP" laws have confused a lot of us about security. What if
> NOBODY TALKED ABOUT OUR WEAKNESSES BECAUSE IT WAS ILLEGAL, the
> management teams say. This, of course, directly relates to the
> "regulation is GOING to happen" Wassenaar crowd because it's the exact
> same fundamental psychology at work. "We're going to regulate away the
> threat" is as useless as saying "hackers won't buy our boxes to find out
> how to bypass our defenses".
>
> -dave
>
>
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