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Re: seriously flawed U Washington breach study getspress making claims
From: "James Childers" <james () iqbio net>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:44:16 -0700
Bill, Don't be too quick to knock "vendors fanning the flames". We need a to get a serious bon-fire going to get people to realize what is actually going on and to secure the data to which they have been entrusted. Bring on the gasoline. Only when the "market" truly decides people actually need to secure their data will they do so - and this usually happens when the Government makes an example out of someone or some company (Martha Stewart, Enron, etc...) and people are shocked out of their complacency - DON'T be that guy should be the motto. Until then the best we can do is "Educate the Consumer". This is Capitalism at its best - Find a need and fill it. Just don't make outrageous claims or promote snake oil. Having a better mousetrap that works as advertised is not necessarily a bad thing. James (Jim) Childers President / Owner Artemis Solutions Group (USA) BioCert(r) - iQBio(tm) - BioSaf(r) www.iqbio.com -----Original Message----- From: dataloss-bounces () attrition org [mailto:dataloss-bounces () attrition org] On Behalf Of B.K. DeLong Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:35 PM To: Bill Yurcik Cc: dataloss () attrition org Subject: Re: [Dataloss] seriously flawed U Washington breach study getspress making claims Some good insight, Bill. The key thing with getting the word out, (though there are a number of journalists on this list), is to set this study to a Google Alert and email your points to any reporters who cover said. It wouldn't hurt to get a few more sharp folks to "sign on" to the points. Of course, certain vendors may fan the flames by pointing out that corporations need to buy more products and services but hopefully that trend continues to be less useful the more educated everyone becomes. On 3/14/07, Bill Yurcik <byurcik () ncsa uiuc edu> wrote:
"Hackers Get a Bum Rap for Corporate America's Digital Delinquency" University of Washington News and Information (03/12/07) http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/article.asp?articleID=31264 I saw this press announcement of a study (also included in summary at
end
of this Email) getting publicity and it looks seriously flawed. The academics searched news articles about computer breaches going back to 1980 and then make claims. (1) the authors, who are not techies (communications and geography academics), should realize that there are significant disincentives
for
any organization to have breaches of any type publicly reported - this makes any aggregate news data about breaches they assembled extremely suspect. for instance, the authors claim there were *zero* breaches each year
for
the years 1988-91, 1993-94; less than 10 breaches each year from 1995-1999; and less than 25 breaches each year from 2000-2004. this does not pass the smell test!!! (2) I would also argue only since state breach disclosure laws have started to provide accurate data on "privacy breaches" can one begin
to
make claims - there is not valid data before state disclosure laws
kicked
in. Even state breach disclosure data is relatively new to being analyzed and not perfect since there is still non-reporting and disclosures are not publicly recorded although the press does pick up
a
significant portion of the disclosures between organizations and the parties affected. Also there are skewing effects due to state breach disclosure laws not being uniform and having different
technical
requirements such as who must report, what they must report, etc. (3) The study in question mixes news events with recent reports to comply with state disclosure laws so this changes
any
statistical analysis (multiple sources from different distributions) I am very disappointed to see this poor scholarship/analysis especially that it is getting press (primarily due to the University
of
Washington's public relations). Of course consider the source where
the
study will evemtually be published is not at the forefront in this area, "Journal of Computer-Mediated Communication", however, due dilligence should have sent the editors of JCMC to seek out some of us from this dataloss list for peer-review. any feedback in agreement or disagreement? Cheers! - Bill Yurcik --- "Hackers Get a Bum Rap for Corporate America's Digital Delinquency" University of Washington News and Information (03/12/07) http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/article.asp?articleID=31264 University of Washington communications professor Phil Howard
conducted a
review of data-breach incidents reported in major U.S. news outlets
between
1980 and 2006 and found that organizational flaws in businesses, not hackers, should receive the most blame. "The surprising part is how
much
of those violations are organizationally prompted--they're not about
lone
wolf hackers doing their thing with malicious intent," Howard says.
His
study revealed that malicious intrusions represent only 31 percent of
550
confirmed incidents, while mismanagement, such as missing or stolen hardware, insider abuse or theft, administrative errors, or accidental exposure of data online was responsible for 60 percent of the
incidents
reported. State laws that require companies to report breaches
enabled the
study to be done with greater accuracy. "We've actually been able to
get a
much better snapshot of the spectrum of privacy violations," says
Howard.
The study also found that while universities make up less than 1
percent of
the total records lost, they make up 30 percent of the reported
incidents.
Corporate America claims that market forces should be allowed to solve
the
problem of data breaches and reporting them, but Howard believes that
this
strategy is not sufficient, especially since identity theft is the
nation's
fastest growing crime. He also believes that states seem more capable
of
passing laws on the matter than the federal government. --- _______________________________________________ Dataloss Mailing List (dataloss () attrition org) http://attrition.org/dataloss Tracking more than 149 million compromised records in 598 incidents
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