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Re: Data in SYN Packets
From: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks () VT EDU>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:49:56 -0400
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:24:39 CDT, Mike Hanson said:
Hello, In our IPS log I see the following entry *TCP C2S Ambiguity: Data in SYN Packet* daily directed towards our DNS server. These packets are coming from four or so different addresses in China. I did a brief Google search with results being a few or more years old. A couple of the posts reported the same *Data in SYN Packet* with the originating addresses also from China. Can anybody shed light on this?
Well, it may be somebody is actually deploying this RFC:
1644 T/TCP -- TCP Extensions for Transactions Functional
Specification. R. Braden. July 1994. (Format: TXT=87362 bytes)
(Updates RFC1379) (Status: EXPERIMENTAL)
(Executive summary from the RFC: follows)
TCP A (Client) TCP B (Server)
CLOSED LISTEN
#1 SYN-SENT* --> <SYN,data1,FIN,CC=x> --> CLOSE-WAIT*
(TAO test OK)
(data1->user_B)
<-- LAST-ACK*
#2 TIME-WAIT <-- <SYN,ACK(FIN),data2,FIN,CC=y,CC.ECHO=x>
(data2->user_A)
#3 TIME-WAIT --> <ACK(FIN),CC=x> --> CLOSED
(timeout)
CLOSED
Most of the deployment I've seen has been broken spamware that did it
basically in a fire-n-forget mode, targeting the fact that at least one
high-market-share vendor's TCP stack was buggy and would queue up the
whole SMTP transaction without bothering to actually check everything, so
spamware could send a SYN EHLO MAIL FROM RCPT TO DATA <text> . in one long
fragmented packet and it would actually work. Gaak.
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Current thread:
- Data in SYN Packets Mike Hanson (Mar 26)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Data in SYN Packets Justin Klein Keane (Mar 26)
- Re: Data in SYN Packets scott hollatz (Mar 26)
- Re: Data in SYN Packets Gibson, Nathan J. (HSC) (Mar 26)
- Re: Data in SYN Packets Mark Newman (Mar 26)
- Re: Data in SYN Packets Valdis Kletnieks (Mar 26)
- Re: Data in SYN Packets John Kristoff (Mar 27)
- Re: Data in SYN Packets scott hollatz (Mar 27)
