Re: RIAA timestamps off

[Ken Connelly <Ken.Connelly () UNI EDU>]

I will echo Rick's sentiments and experiences.  I, too, have been
dealing with these since day one.  We have never had a student dispute
the copyright infringement complaint other than a case or two where the
student registered another's computer for them.  In those cases, we
redirected the complaint to the true owner and had no further dispute.

- ken

Rick Coloccia wrote:
> We got 14 these past two weeks.  Very frustrating, since we use a
> packet shaper and an Audible Magic box to minimize this kind of
> traffic.  (All 14 were for encrypted protocols...) In every single
> case, the student admits, "Yes I use limewire/ares/etc" and "Yes I
> have that song" so while the timestamps may well be off we don't think
> that's a significant issue with regard to these takedown notices.  Our
> students admit to the file sharing (but most claim they don't know
> that the same program that lets them get the song re-shares it to the
> world), they get their stern warning, and life goes on.  I realize
> that there are technical differences between "making available" and
> someone "actually downloading" the song via a p2p program, but with my
> students the difference isn't truly significant.  We bring students
> in, teach them the highlights of the dmca, insist they uninstall any
> p2p software, explain how the takedown notice affects them as a
> Geneseo student (If we receive a second takedown notice on their
> behalf, they'll meet the Dean of Students who will likely start a
> process that can only end in suspension or expulsion) and send them on
> their way.  It works for us.
> I'm not taking the side of the riaa, just sharing my experiences
> having done this for years now, since the very first one...
>
> -Rick
>
> Valdis Kletnieks wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:50:42 EDT, David Taylor said:
> >
> > > I'm wondering if they are just going by the name of the file without
> > > even
> > > verifying the contents of the file.
> >
> > One has to wonder if this isn't a Beavis-and-Butthead routine, where one
> > group hired by the RIAA to seed file sharing networks with bogus and
> > corrupt
> > versions of files has managed to plonk a suspiciously named file onto
> > somebody's hard drive, and then the *other* group hired by the RIAA
> > to find
> > violators has found said file...
> >
> > It would fit in with the level of forensic rigor we've seen in the
> > past...