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Re: Active Domain Architecture in an Academic Environment


From: "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <mschalip () CNM EDU>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:44:11 -0600

We've been on AD for a long time, and we're moving to a new AD structure to clean up the whole OU mess that we 
inherited.  We've currently got a split domain (Campus for students, and Admin for employees) - but with changes that 
have been implemented in Server 2008, we'll probably move to a single domain and handle the split/security through OUs.

M

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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Dexter Caldwell 
[Dexter.Caldwell () FURMAN EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:42 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Active Domain Architecture in an Academic Environment

There are a very few things that you'd need a separate forest for per se.  It doesn't mean it would be the wrong 
choice, but you have a lot of means of managing security, roles and groups within a simpler design that may more than 
suffice.    I'd say, generally simpler is better to start with.  You can always add complexity later, but it's very 
difficult to relieve yourself of complexity once you are built on it.  You could consider everything from multiple 
forests, to a single forest with multiple domains, to single-domain multiple OUs, groups, etc.  A lot depends upon 1) 
your desired security model 2) Your desired user and resource management model  3) your system management resources and 
expertise 4) In some cases geographic and perhaps even political dispersion of your organization.

 There are not many things that at most a single forest, mulit-domain model will not suit for on the more complicated 
end for an organization that's largely a coherent entity.  In many cases a single forest, single domain will accomplish 
what you require via other means of management below the domain itself.  (OUs, etc.).  From a high level I'd start with 
the single forest and and single or multiple domains and prove why any of those models won't work first.

D/C
The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV 
EDUCAUSE EDU>> writes:
In preparation for a migration from Novell, we are in the process of designing a new Active Directory domain structure. 
 Right now we have separate administrative (faculty and staff) and academic (classrooms and students) networks.  We are 
debating whether to have a single forest encompassing both networks (users and workstations) or a two-forest 
architecture with the functions split.  We would like to hear what other colleges have done.  Did you elect to 
implement one or two forests?  Why did you choose that solution?  In retrospect, was that the correct solution?  If 
not, why not?  Any information would be a great help.  Thanks.

Patrick J. Feehan JD, CIPP
Director of IT Privacy & Cybersecurity Compliance
Montgomery College
(240) 567-3087
patrick.feehan () montgomerycollege edu<mailto:patrick.feehan () montgomerycollege edu>




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