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Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??


From: "Hahues, Sven" <shahues () FGCU EDU>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:20:56 +0000

The reasonably paranoid person in me was also going to say what David said.  I'd be more concerned with what they may 
be gathering "accidentally" while they are at your campus than what they are there to officially do.

It's not like Google hasn't "accidentally" done this in the past - 
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176810/Google_stops_sniffing_Wi_Fi_data_after_privacy_gaffe

I don't know about you, but the difference between running netstumbler and tcpdump isn't  just a simple "whoops - wrong 
button, my bad..." kinda thing, so a little bit of suspicion is well placed.

Sven

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Wasley
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

I'm curious why there have been few comments about what Google did -not- say in the agreement.  There have been many 
news stories about Google "accidentally" collecting emails, passwords, etc., as a byproduct of doing this mapping.  My 
own paranoia would lead me to request an explicit clause that says something like "Any information recorded by Google 
or it's contractor other than what is described above as Location Information shall not be used for any purpose and 
shall be erased from all records immediately upon discovery."

David


On Apr 15, 2012, at 9:16 PM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL wrote:



        Hi Folks....

        Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them to "map your campus" in detail - presumably, for 
student navigation purposes??  Here's the "agreement" that they want us to sign off on.  I have some basic concerns, 
but - then again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.  So - I thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what 
your collective wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized entry)....

        Let me know what you all think....



        Thanks,



        Michael


                Agreement
                We (the "Property Owner", "Property Manager", or "Property Operator") hereby permit Google Inc. 
(through its employees, affiliates or agents) to enter the publicly accessible areas of the properties described above, 
at a time and in the manner directed by our designated contact person listed in the Signatory Information area below, 
to collect Location Information.

                For the purposes of this agreement, "Location Information" means Wi-Fi access point MAC addresses (also 
known as BSSIDs); Wi-Fi access point properties (including signal strength); mobile handset-generated compass, 
gyroscope and accelerometer measurements; and other related information.

                Google will abide by the property access rules specified by our designated contact person.

                Google must have suitable insurance coverage or self-insure for all of Google's activities on the 
propert(ies).  Google will be responsible for all costs of its data collection, and will be the exclusive owner of all 
right, title and interest in all data collected on the proper(ties).

                This letter does not give Google any intellectual property rights to our trademarks or logos.  Neither 
party will use the other's name, trademark or logo in any public statement without the other's permission.

                We affirm that we are either the Property Owner, the Property Manager, or the Property Operator, and 
that we have full power and authority to grant you the permission above.




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