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Re: Rethinking the DMZ
From: Jeff Moore <mail () JEFFMOORE COM>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:49:58 -0700
Security is like an Onion or an Ogre. It has many layers(End of horrible Shrek reference! Sorry its been a long week.). For us the layers are allot of overhead but I feel they are very very valuable. Another thing to consider in your questioning is the changing landscape of firewalls. If I were asking this question of our network I would rephrase to say "Are NGFW DMZs relevant in our architecture?". The part these play can be very different than a traditional firewall. Even if there was not a deny any stance I would certainly think it would be beneficial in controlling traffic. Threats etc. Minimizing targets and areas affected is a major benefit. Also allot of attacks are utilizing social engineering today to target a random person at Company A to get access to their network. Without layers those types of attacks can easily gain access. Take all this with a grain of salt cause I am still livin in the 90s!!! Jeff M On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Youngquist, Jason R. <jryoungquist () ccis edu
wrote:
We are thinking about changing our network architecture.**** ** ** As our network has grown and the complexity of our public facing systems and connectivity needs of those systems has increased, we are wondering what value our DMZ delivers. **** ** ** As an example, public facing systems in the DMZ that require access to LDAP/AD for AAA, SQL for database lookups, Exchange for mail delivery and relay, etc.**** ** ** For those of you with non-trivial public facing systems, where do you draw the balance line between security and access? If our most visible public facing systems (most likely to be attacked) require internal AAA & SQL access, what are we protecting? **** ** ** Given current system requirements and the evolution of security, are the reasons for setting up a DMZ 15 years ago still valid, and is the value of maintaining a DMZ worth the associated costs and if not, what are the alternatives? **** ** ** ** ** Thanks.**** Jason Youngquist, CISSP**** Information Technology Security Engineer**** Technology Services**** Columbia College**** 1001 Rogers Street, Columbia, MO 65216**** (573) 875-7334**** jryoungquist () ccis edu**** http://www.ccis.edu****
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Current thread:
- Rethinking the DMZ Youngquist, Jason R. (Aug 30)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Jeff Moore (Aug 30)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Joel Rosenblatt (Aug 30)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Harry Hoffman (Aug 30)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ John Hoffoss (Aug 31)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Julian Y Koh (Sep 04)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Deke Kassabian (Sep 04)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Haines, Ena (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ John Ladwig (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Mike Caudill (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Jeff Kell (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Mike Caudill (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Deke Kassabian (Sep 04)
