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Re: Rethinking the DMZ


From: Jeff Moore <mail () JEFFMOORE COM>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:49:58 -0700

Security is like an Onion or an Ogre. It has many layers(End of horrible
Shrek reference! Sorry its been a long week.).

For us the layers are allot of overhead but I feel they are very very
valuable. Another thing to consider in your questioning is the changing
landscape of firewalls. If I were asking this question of our network I
would rephrase to say "Are NGFW DMZs relevant in our architecture?". The
part these play can be very different than a traditional firewall. Even if
there was not a deny any stance I would certainly think it would be
beneficial in controlling traffic. Threats etc. Minimizing targets and
areas affected is a major benefit. Also allot of attacks are utilizing
social engineering today to target a random person at Company A to get
access to their network. Without layers those types of attacks can easily
gain access.

Take all this with a grain of salt cause I am still livin in the 90s!!!


Jeff M



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Youngquist, Jason R. <jryoungquist () ccis edu
wrote:

 We are thinking about changing our network architecture.****

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As our network has grown and the complexity of our public facing systems
and connectivity needs of those systems has increased, we are wondering
what value our DMZ delivers.  ****

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As an example, public facing systems in the DMZ that require access to
LDAP/AD for AAA, SQL for database lookups, Exchange for mail delivery and
relay, etc.****

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For those of you with non-trivial public facing systems, where do you draw
the balance line between security and access?  If our most visible public
facing systems (most likely to be attacked) require internal AAA & SQL
access, what are we protecting?  ****

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Given current system requirements and the evolution of security, are the
reasons for setting up a DMZ 15 years ago still valid, and is the value of
maintaining a DMZ worth the associated costs and if not, what are the
alternatives?  ****

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Thanks.****

Jason Youngquist, CISSP****

Information Technology Security Engineer****

Technology Services****

Columbia College****

1001 Rogers Street, Columbia, MO  65216****

(573) 875-7334****

jryoungquist () ccis edu****

http://www.ccis.edu****




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