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Re: Security team and budget
From: dsarazen <dsarazen () BRANDEIS EDU>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 10:04:21 -0500
The highest I've heard, and this included for profit organizations, was 3 to 6 percent of the TOTAL budget. That was
from a SANS instructor, Dr. Eric Cole, in 2014. None of the members of the class (about 50) thought their school was
investing even 2% of their budgets towards IT Security.
But only a risk assessment can help you quantify what you really should be spending. I have Dr. Cole's SANS based risk
assessment if you'd like to see it. Again, it's two years old, but maps to ISO/NIST/HIPAA and PCI DSS.
Good luck,
Dan Sarazen, CISA, CISSP
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From: Theresa Rowe <rowe () OAKLAND EDU>
Date: 03/03/2016 8:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: Security team and budget
The auditor started with a Gartner number of 7% of the IT budget, then reviewed gaps and history of funding to make a
recommendation.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Hugh Burley <Hburley () tru ca> wrote:
Hi Theresa,
My approach has been to consider information security as an institutional program rather than a department. From my
perspective, it doesn’t matter where an individual
reports or which department manages a tool, if they are performing an information security function I include that
solution cost and any portion of staff time in my budget. Including this information my program runs between 5% and 7%
of ITS budget. If we
believe Larry Poneman, we should be seeing the best cost benefit ratio at some where closer to 11%.
I am be curious to know how your auditor derived what they believe your budget should be.
Hugh Burley
Manager Information Security
Thompson Rivers University
BCCOL 223
Phone: 250-852-6351
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On Behalf Of Theresa Rowe
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:57 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: [SECURITY] Security team and budget
Hi,
After a recent security audit, the auditor suggested that the security budget, inclusive of staffing, was underfunded.
Using Gartner and other data, for a university our size, the suggested budget was around $500,000 to $700,000. We are
at 45-55% of that amount.
At first I thought a major difference would be what we spend on staff; there are two staff members on the team. But
when I go to Educause Core Data, and compare our Carnegie class and a created group of identified peers, 2 is the size
of
the team.
This makes me wonder what we are not buying in our security budget. We have AV, logging (hosted Splunk), and the usual
stuff, or so I thought.
Would anyone be willing to share details about what is included in their security budget?
Thanks in advance -
--
Theresa Rowe
Chief Information Officer
Oakland University
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Theresa Rowe
Chief Information Officer
Oakland University
Current thread:
- Security team and budget Theresa Rowe (Mar 01)
- Re: Security team and budget Akbari, Amir (Mar 01)
- Re: Security team and budget David Seidl (Mar 01)
- Re: Security team and budget Youngquist, Jason R. (Mar 02)
- Re: Security team and budget Theresa Rowe (Mar 02)
- Re: Security team and budget Hugh Burley (Mar 02)
- Re: Security team and budget Theresa Rowe (Mar 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Security team and budget dsarazen (Mar 02)
- Re: Security team and budget Spahr, Todd M. (Mar 02)
- Re: Security team and budget dsarazen (Mar 03)
