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Re: 802.1X password reset issues


From: William Clark <wclark () WEBER EDU>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:07:57 -0700

Try this. My Apple-1 was not allowing me to log in and passwords changes
worked only once or not at all. My other Apple-2 worked great. My PC-1
didn't. My PC-2 did great.
Common only to the password errors problems machines? Googles "Password
Synchronization Service". It purports to allow a single pw to be used on
all your machines with Google program integration. You can find it in the
preferences Google panels.
I re-did the bad machines and left off the Google goodies and left "Sync
Passwords" off. And now they run like a charm.
One pw across all your own machine is a bad security practice at a
University and I am surprised Google did this and put it in users hands. wc

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 1:46 PM Davis, Michael <MichaelDavis () letu edu>
wrote:

Jim,



We’ve had the same experience as you with our policy of annual password
changes for employees. We would use Netwrix tools for the Help Desk to
identify where the lockouts were coming from so we could guide the employee
on what device to check and whether it was email or WiFi, etc.



Now, we’re in the process of eliminating expiring passwords to better
align with the latest NIST recommendations. So far it’s an opt-in preview.
Any of our employees who want a non-expiring password can email us and we
put them in a security group that enables Azure AD MFA and sets a
fine-grained password policy that requires more characters (15 instead of
the old 7), but eliminates password expiration and complexity. Excellent
feedback thus far from our participants and we expect we’ll eventually roll
this out to everyone.





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*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> *On Behalf Of *Pardonek, Jim
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:37 PM
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* [SECURITY] 802.1X password reset issues



We are getting some grumbling from several staff that get into a password
lockout condition when changing their twice a year required password.  We
mostly see this when people have multiple devices connected to the wireless
network and they forget one of them and it locks out from re-auth requests
or if they don’t change the password for their email client and that locks
us out.  We have recommended procedures (turn off all devices but one and
re-do the password one at a time).  We’ve tried to make it less painful by
upping the number of failed password attempts before it locks out, but I
don’t want to get to a point where we sacrifice security for convenience.
Any any of you folks have similar issues and what have you done to make it
easier?



Thanks,



Jim





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