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Re: Brute force credentials protection
From: "Laverty, Patrick" <patrick_laverty () BROWN EDU>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 08:56:50 -0500
The article that Phil links does make some interesting points. I also like that the author brought up the IP based lockouts, which help against brute force attacks. One thing to keep in mind with those is while they will protect the services that they are in front of, if you have any service exposed to the internet that uses domain authentication, that will be used for password brute force guessing. The article does also stress using "strong passwords" but what that means is not always clear to people. For example, the most common password policy is to require: Minimum 8 characters Complexity with at least 3 out of 4 of uppercase, lowercase, special characters, digits. Change every 90 days Can't use an old password. That's pretty standard, and at first glance, seems pretty good. However Password1 fits that criteria. As does Winter2019. As does Classof 2022. These are all passwords that the brute force guessers are aware of and will be trying. With a large enough username set (often universities make lookup publicly available) there will be weak passwords found, allowing the attacker to get VPN access into the network. Another behavior you can look for with regard to brute force is a single IP trying to log in with different usernames. I would probably not implement this on campus, as a residence hall would get triggered pretty quickly. But from off-campus, there might not be a valid use case for a single IP to be trying to log in to a service with 25+ different usernames. Thanks! Patrick On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:18 AM Maud, Phil <P.H.Maud () cranfield ac uk> wrote:
This makes interesting reading https://ravingroo.com/295/active-directory-account-lockout-policy-threshold-counter-strong-password/ Regards Phil Maud Information Security Analyst Information Services, Building 63 (IT) G7 E: P.H.Maud () cranfield ac uk T: +44 (0) 1234 75 4879 -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv < SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Mike Dronen Sent: 04 March 2019 20:04 To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] Brute force credentials protection All - Looks like it's been a while since this topic has come up in the forum. I'm wondering how you protect against brute force password attempts, i.e. two-factor auth. In our environment we set an attribute in AD to lock the user account for a prescribed period of time after four failed attempts. This appears to work for us. Just wondering if there are other mechanisms just as good or better? Thanks.
Current thread:
- Brute force credentials protection Mike Dronen (Mar 04)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Maud, Phil (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Laverty, Patrick (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Dexter Caldwell (Mar 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Mike Dronen (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection randy (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Brad Judy (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Tom Horton (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Greg Williams (Mar 06)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection randy (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Francisco Chavez (Mar 05)
- Re: Brute force credentials protection Maud, Phil (Mar 05)
