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Re: [EXTERNAL] [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email
From: Scott Norton <dsnorton () UW EDU>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:37:26 +0000
No services for Alumni except for email forwarding anymore for us. (Forwarding's is becoming very fragile as people implement SPF, which can result in messages from senders with "locked" domains being blocked at the email providers we forward to.) There is very little demonstrated value in continuing to provide service, whereas there is clear demonstration of impact and large potential liabilities. * Number one reason people say they offer this is to "keep in touch", but for the vast majority in our analysis our communications where simply going to an abandoned account. Forcing a forward has a better chance of getting communications to an account they might actually read. * Hackers love to go after these accounts, and in many cases will go unnoticed as the owner is absent. * Enormous potentially liabilities and reputation risks should one of your Admin accounts become compromised. It is one thing to spill your own data, but spilling the personal data from alumni can be more than a little costly for notification and reputation. (Especially when people use it for access to banks and such.) * Terms of service changes like what is happening with Google. If you have a chance and the data, I really recommend you take some time to evaluate the engagement in marketing campaigns for users that forward vs those that continue using the provided account. From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Ken Connelly Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 12:15 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] [EXTERNAL] [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email us too. On 2/26/21 1:55 PM, Ravi Kotecha wrote: Hi All, We allow alumni to keep email indefinitely (option 1). However, Google's recent announcement<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blog.google%2Foutreach-initiatives%2Feducation%2Fgoogle-workspace-for-education%3Futm_source%3Doutreach%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DFY21-Q1-global-other-email-other-edu-product-news-workspace-launch%26utm_content%3Dproduct-news%26mkt_tok%3DeyJpIjoiT1RoaFltRTNNRE13TlRjNSIsInQiOiJJYzkwUGVCVit0czBNOUNQZlJ2NlFUQUtXaHMyRGNBRDNERXBsWFN4YzlSTTFsdDlVcmVNVzRNdWNRSEdCTXJTK0pyZDdYd2JYdEZRYVREZnY1bUtDWDNUTnJaZjM5M29lMEIxbzFndVlxRkl1d0hOdVIxUm1uK3dtdXBtQWxheXh3c0xESVNlZVVFVXgxVFdjcWN6WEE9PSJ9&data=04%7C01%7Cdsnorton%40uw.edu%7Cb3a02e68321a492269f108d8da936c49%7Cf6b6dd5bf02f441a99a0162ac5060bd2%7C1%7C1%7C637499674000609785%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=FqqLddxpgTkWw%2BKOjRqiQwfzyu2mDIztMFa7gQ%2BbM84%3D&reserved=0> will have us re-evaluate this. -- Ravi Kotecha '10, M.S. '14, M.S. '20 Privacy & Information Security Analyst Information Technology Services Submit a security request: security () brandeis edu<mailto:security () brandeis edu> Report phishing: phishing () brandeis edu<mailto:phishing () brandeis edu> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 2:48 PM Wilson, Lawrence <lwilson () wpi edu<mailto:lwilson () wpi edu>> wrote: We are evaluating alternatives regarding alumni email. Right now we looking at two options: Option 1: Allow students to keep their current WPI email address when they graduate: @WPI.edu Option 2: Require students to change to a new "alumni" email address when they graduate: @alum.WPI.edu<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Falum.wpi.edu%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cdsnorton%40uw.edu%7Cb3a02e68321a492269f108d8da936c49%7Cf6b6dd5bf02f441a99a0162ac5060bd2%7C1%7C1%7C637499674000609785%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Y8G1AKbgqgycWT17kmcGhtMRKsLxmeBkFXz34PElHn0%3D&reserved=0> I would be interested in how alumni email is handled in your institution. Do you use Option 1, Option 2 or Option 3: None of the above. If you choose Option 3 can you please explain? 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Current thread:
- Question Regarding Alumni email Wilson, Lawrence (Feb 26)
- Re: Question Regarding Alumni email Whinston Antion (Feb 26)
- Re: [EXT] Re: [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email Wilson, Lawrence (Feb 26)
- Re: Question Regarding Alumni email Scott Stoops (Feb 26)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email Ravi Kotecha (Feb 26)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email Ken Connelly (Feb 26)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email Scott Norton (Feb 26)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] [SECURITY] Question Regarding Alumni email Ken Connelly (Feb 26)
- Re: Question Regarding Alumni email Ken Connelly (Feb 26)
- Re: Question Regarding Alumni email John Schaeffer (Feb 26)
- Re: Question Regarding Alumni email Whinston Antion (Feb 26)
