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Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () nfr net>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:50:12 -0400
Bill Stout wrote:
I notice that more firewalls are of the hardware type.
Yup. It's because vendors are sick of being tortured over operating system issues, so they choose to hide it. If you come out with an overtly UNIX product, the NT heads will scream until you make an NT version and then the various UNIX factions will bicker over which UNIX flavor and hardware you support. It's a nightmare. :) So the vendors just say, "ok, it's a black box. keep out." It's especially important since customers want to be cost-conscious, and if the product is going to run on an *86 machine, then you've either got the problem that the customer has to install NT (joy!joy!) or find a hardware platform that works reliably for whichever UNIX you use (joy!joy!). It's a massive pain all around, and of course, pain for the customer always reflects on the vendor.
It seems that over time the hardware firewalls have become more robust, and with the minimal configuration involved, lack of mechanical devices (disks) and underlying OS to fiddle with, seem to have higher MTBF ratings than software firewalls.
It's really more a matter of avoiding user error than anything else. If it's a black box, you don't have to worry about your customer hosing the password file (if it's UNIX) or zapping the wrong registry entry (if it's NT). The hardware these things run on are all about the same. You can get very good hardware configs that have redundant power, etc, etc. That's just a matter of money.
Seems that many on the list have predicted the rise of the hardware firewall and 'death' of the software firewall.
I did, in about 1992. :) But we made software firewalls because, at that time, it was hard to get a zero-cost operating system that was any good. Nowadays, you can get zero-cost operating systems that are nearly good, assuming you're willing to spend a full time employee fiddling with them.
What is the current feel of hardware vs. software firewalls?
I figure in a few years firewalls, intrusion detection systems, and most dedicated servers will be appliances -- unless there remains a large corps of dedicated folks who _enjoy_ screwing around with operating systems. (I mean, I _enjoy_ it, but as a hobby, not part of my job. My job is to make things work, and fiddle-ware isn't attractive to senior management in most places anymore) mjr. -- Marcus J. Ranum, CEO, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. work - http://www.nfr.net home - http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr
Current thread:
- Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Bill Stout (Sep 07)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Franck Veysset (Sep 08)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Joe Ippolito (Sep 10)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Jules Veloria (Sep 11)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Aaron D. Turner (Sep 11)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Joe Ippolito (Sep 10)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Bill Pennington (Sep 08)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Christopher C. Petro (Sep 18)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability David Klann (Sep 08)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Josh Robb (Sep 08)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Ryan Russell (Sep 08)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Marcus J. Ranum (Sep 08)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Lart (Sep 09)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Lart (Sep 11)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Lart (Sep 09)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Vin McLellan (Sep 09)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Bill Stout (Sep 09)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Ryan Russell (Sep 12)
- Tripwire like perl program Siglite (Sep 14)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability dwelch (Sep 14)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Joe Ippolito (Sep 14)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Bill Stout (Sep 14)
- RE: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Tina Bird (Sep 18)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: Hardware vs. Software firewall reliability Franck Veysset (Sep 08)
