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Re: vlan security ?
From: Darren Reed <darrenr () reed wattle id au>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:15:10 +1000 (EST)
In some email I received from John Adams, sie wrote: [...]
I've spent alot of time configuring VLANs on Catalyst 6xxx series switches, and other Cisco products and I have to admit, this is one of the first times I've seen concerns raised about packets jumping from VLAN to VLAN. I'd guess that it's entirely possible to make this happen, but I'm looking for hard evidence that this can happen. There's simply no command (aside from putting a port up as a span port or trunk) to put a port in two VLANs. Would this attack involve injecting ISL packets into the switch to send data to multiple ports? ISL isn't authenticated, nor is VTP, so you could have packets crossing boundaries that way.
Something which needs to be considered is that for any VLAN "hacking" to occur the person doing that hacking needs to have (a) broken into a box on a wire connected to the switch and (b) gained the ability to send raw packets out on the network. I'd say that in most cases if a hacker can achieve (a) then (b) is also achievable. So in effect, for the VLAN to reach a point of "being vulnerable" your DMZ must already have been hacked successfully. The only wildcard there being if the switch acknowledges SNMP things and an attacker can sneak through SNMP packets - or in some cases HTTP traffic(!) - and cause it to "reconfigure". There's another variable I just remembered and that's the ability to use telnet to (re)configure the switch. This doesn't take getting root to send weird packets to exploit and if the manufacturer has built in some hidden passwords then you could seriously be hosed (hackers always know these things well in advance of you). Telnet/SSH(?) should also be on the list of traffic prohibited from reaching your switch. In summary, generally if the switch VLAN configuration reaches a point where it is "at risk" from raw ethernet frames (weird multicast/broadcast packets), you have got bigger problems to worry about than the switch being "not a switch". Darren _______________________________________________ Firewall-wizards mailing list Firewall-wizards () nfr net http://www.nfr.net/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: vlan security ? Predrag Zivic (Aug 11)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: vlan security ? Eric Hall (Aug 11)
- RE: vlan security ? Ryan Russell (Aug 11)
- Re: vlan security ? Jim Duncan (Aug 12)
- RE: vlan security ? trall (Aug 11)
- Re: vlan security ? Darren Reed (Aug 11)
