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Re: Firewalls - ITSEC Rating?


From: Tim.Wundke () camtech com au
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:48:16 +1030 (CST)

On  3 Feb, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:

The ITSEC evaluation says that the product met the requirements documented
in its "Security Target" document.

Right, if I understand correctly, it's a lot like those ISO9000
deals - you're evaluated on whether or not you actually do what
you claim to do. And, since everyone's claims can be subtly
different, in the end the evaluation is useless because a user
of the evaluated product has to re-evaluate the product to see
if the claims make sense for their purpose.

Yep.  If the product is not used under the same conditions that it was
evaluated under (ie. exact same version/revision, sometimes on
particular hardware, possibly with any number of other restrictions),
the evaluation essentially means nothing.  So a user must determine
whether these restrictions make sense for them.

The biggest problem I see in things like firewalls (and other
fast-ish paced software/hardware) is that every version/revision must be
evaluated, which means big expenditure on the part of the developer to
maintain a rating.

I once thought about trying to get a 10baseT hub ITSEC evaluated
as a firewall (albeit a very permissive one) but the mountains
of paperwork and the huge amount of time and money necessary
are daunting.

E1 and E2 aren't too bad, although to my mind the ratings mean little
anyway.  E3 and E4 start getting prohibitive, unless you're following
pretty rigorous design/documentation procedures anyway.  E5 and E6 are
just plain horrendous!

I'm sure that many on this list will be shocked to hear me say
this, but the ICSA firewall product certification is orders of
magnitude more valuable to real customers than ITSEC evaluation.

So far as I can tell, ITSEC and Common Criteria ratings are mainly used
by governments when buying products (I believe an ITSEC rating is
mandatory in Australia for some purchases).  They can be of some use to
commercial companies, but the restrictions placed on the "secure" use
of them may be prohibitive.

Tim.

    What's the difference between roast beef and pea soup?
    Anyone can roast beef.

These are, of course, my opinions only.




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