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Re: Killing Napster and beyond...
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () cospo osis gov>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:20:51 -0400
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 07:29:46AM -0400, Brad Van Orden wrote: ...
Technology should not be used to manage people's behavior.
... There are those who believe that this principle takes precedence over, e.g., air bags that inflate to keep people from going through windshields, or seat belts that close themselves, or injection needles that retract themselves to prevent accidental sticks, or automobile starters that will not function unless the opener gives some proof of being sober, or ... In fact, the safety engineering industry use workspace controls as one of the number one way of keeping people from injuring themselves. And I am all for that. But these also cost money, so a lot of these clever little ways to protect people are not universally available. [This is also because of a lot of people's ingrained attitudes about allowing themselves to get injured however they want - no seat belts, no motor- cycle helmets, etc.] I would set a lot higher priority on not allowing technology to control people's behaviour. What is the difference? The stop sign is a good example. If I have a good reason to run a stop sign, I can. I am not controlled. But the stop sign manages traffic. Granted, there are also people who run them without good reason, but that is their decision - an incorrect one - and it will be managed in other ways. All of civilisation is a means of finding the proper ways of managing the balance between people's wants and society's needs. -- Joe Yao jsdy () cospo osis gov - Joseph S. D. Yao COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://www.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Killing Napster and beyond... Todd Schroeder (Oct 16)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Chris Cappuccio (Oct 18)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Bruce M. Walker (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... R. DuFresne (Oct 18)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... David O'Shea (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... R. DuFresne (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Alan Young (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Robert Collins (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... spiff (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Joseph S D Yao (Oct 23)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... David Hassilev (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Andy Wigglesworth (Oct 27)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Jürgen Nieveler (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Harris, Tim (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Vern Paxson (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Darren Reed (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... R. DuFresne (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... John McDermott (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Zarcone, Christopher (Oct 19)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Chris Cappuccio (Oct 18)
