RE: Firewall/VPN recommendation for (Ex-) Gauntlet resel ler

[David Mackie <DMackie () ces com au>]

Patrick,
                Checkout http://www.intrusion.com/Products/pds2100.shtml

VPN-1/FireWall-1 appliance on hardend RED Hat

The PDS 2110 features a personality module pre-installed with Check Point's
market-leading VPN-1/FireWall-1 SmallOffice software. The PDS 2110 also
functions with Check Point's security management solutions, enabling
management at the local level, centralized at the enterprise, or outsourced
to telcos or managed service providers. 
 
I do not know if the Kane Secure Enterprise FW-1 Agent will go on here..... 

Cool if it does great features to suppliment the solution.

Regards 
David 

David Mackie 
Lead Engineer 
Professional Services Group 
CES Computers Pty Ltd 
DMackie () ces com au 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen () punkt de> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:47 PM
To: firewall-wizards () nfr net
Subject: [fw-wiz] Firewall/VPN recommendation for (Ex-) Gauntlet
reseller


Hi Wizards!

I'm seeking a little advice on commercial firewall products
with integrated VPN function.

We have a strong background with TIS/NAI Gauntlet firewalls.
I really like the one proxy per service approach - from a
security viewpoint as well as in terms of configuration.
We have a couple of customers with Gauntlet on Solaris.

I'm looking for a new "strategic" product for a couple of reasons:

- We need IPsec VPN built in to the firewall and from what I've heard/read
  people get "mixed/interesting" results with Gauntlet and PGPnet.
  We are an F-Secure Solution Provider, so interoperability with
  F-Secure VPN+ on the client side is a check item.

- NAI sales, support and pricing sucks - nuff said.
  If it wasn't for gauntlet-user and Meenoo, we'd have dumped
  the product long ago.

- I haven't heard a single success story with Eppliance and
  a hot standby/failover implementation yet.

- CVP 2.0 would be nice, so we could offer our fine F-Secure virus
  scanners ;-)

- The quality of Gauntlet software leaves a little bit to be desired. :-/


When selling Gauntlet I always argued strongly about how proxies
were much more secure _by_design_ than stateful packet filters.
OTOH a generally good desing doesn't help a lousy implementation.
And there seems to be quite a bit of good information about FW 1
on the net - like Lance Spitzner's site, just to mention one.
So I'm currently in the process of dumping my religious preferance
of proxies and investigating SPF firewalls as well. ;-)
Especially the Nokia box looks very interesting.

Another candidate is Cisco's PIX. We are Cisco Premier Certified,
so this would fit our portfolio nicely.


So, what do you think would fit an "old fart" Gauntlet reseller with
> 10 years of experience in the Unix and networking business and
selling Gauntlet since 3.0?

Must have:

- IPsec VPN integrated
- CVP 2.0 or integrated virus scanner
- If not an appliance but on top of a general purpose OS,
  we need Solaris support. We don't do NT, period.
- If appliance, then an entry level version for less than 5,000 USD
  should be available for SMBs
- Hot standby/failover configuration available
- Configurability with command line access only and
  a well documented set of configuration files/scripts.
  Not that I would never use a nice GUI, but it must be possible
  to configure _everything_ through SSH _if_needed_.


Thanks for any comments/opinions,
Patrick
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