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RE: IP filter - Fw1 comparison


From: Johan Allard <johan () allard nu>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:25:59 +0100 (CET)

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Hackett, James wrote:

For security and not functionality Gauntlet from NAI, fully E3 certified 

For functionality of services allowed and not security as much importance
Checkpoint-1

All of these systems under trusted  Solaris with OS stripped down to the
basics in the installation.

I would be looking at the new Linux Kernel 2.4 IP based firewall.

Or Sunscreen EFS if as this uses Stateful inspection as well you can get the
LITE version for free some-one  says you can unplumb the network card and
make the LITE version run in steath mode. Having looked at that yet.

The most popular Firewall to me seems to be the one that has the most bug
updates "Fw-1", Gauntlet has a lot less updates maybe one fix a year or
maybe two.

I have come across a survey on http://www.infosecuritymag.com were those
interrested could participated and Checkpoint, followed by Cisco, Raptor
and Gauntlet, were the most popular. Checkpoint had 32%, calculating the
first 7, cisco had 23%.

This is the best way I have seen so far to get information, the
problem now is to get people to fill out the survey.

I choose Firewall-1 because it is the market leader in commecial
firewalls and Darren Reeds IP-filter because I think it is the best
freeware packet filtering firewall.

//johan


-----Original Message-----
From:       Johan Allard [SMTP:johan () allard nu]
Sent:       27 January 2001 11:53
To: Chris Keladis
Cc: firewall-wizards () nfr com
Subject:    Re: [fw-wiz] IP filter - Fw1 comparison

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Chris Keladis wrote:

Since firewalls should be silent it shouldn't be possible to make
sites like http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ with automated tools for
calculating market share.

Well be carefull there.. A firewall 'should not' mess with the upper
application layers like http, unless it provides proxy services.

To my knowledge IPFilter does not do this.. I'm not sure but i dont
think
Checkpoint does either (at least for WWW).

The Netcraft survey compares WWW servers, not firewalls.

Yes, exactly. For webservers it is easy to do comparison, connect and the
webserver will tell you. An IP filter firewall is very silent, a
FireWall-1 is often responding to some of the ports 256-261, a Raptor
allways has some ports open like usenet-news 119, others a recognizable
via other fingerprinting. Since these tests are quite intrusive I don't
think that anyone could set up a server doing them in order to provide som
statistics. So how can we tell what firewall is the most popular?

//johan

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