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Re: FWTK and smap/smapd
From: Dominik Miklaszewski <dmikey () mac com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:57:23 -0700
Guys, These days spam gets really, annoying (timewise and costwise) from a busy admin standpoint.. I run pair of sendmails with RBL (ordb.org) feature turned on and two anti-virus SMTP behind them, it's been catching maybe 20-30% of that trash.. They not only use hotmail, msn or yahoo but quite recently, while chasing down another buymycrap.com I found they had used some generic Win2000/NT installation with Exchange on it plugged in via DSL lines and sent them with a registered domain on it. ORDB.org can't check on them as those Win boxes can be simply turned off.. They've been spewing that crap through some dictionary generated generic usernames (8 characters standard) ..I've seen alot of that.. anyway here's the point -> we do not use 8-charaters username standard, so everyday I'm finding some 800-2000 spewage of bounce-offs in the postmaster bucket ..I assume another 800-2000 got back to "the sender" politely informing him "no such user..blablablah".. and that's where RBL can't manage to help with. ( I quit doing strict DNS checkups at sendmail level for obvious reasons) Here's the idea: 1. create a postmaster account on a Unix box and forward that spewage to it. 2. A cronjob would be running on these entities in postmaster's bucket parsing the "Received:" lines 3. Input taken from 2. would be run against MX checking with the assumption that all those "DELIVERY FAILURE 55x:" are spewage. 4. There'll be a black list created from 3. with all those IP's and domains that fail 3. checks. I'm planning to let this process run and grow that black list to see what percentage of that crap I'd able to nail down.. What do you think? Would it be easier to do with Exim/Smail/Postfix ? I'm sorry it's slightly off of that lists mainstream ..but since we have so lively discussion on different MTAs I dared to ask. thank you Dominik Miklaszewski Roger Marquis wrote:
Rick Murphy wrote:Like? Examples, lots of them (or at least one). OK. Much of the spam I used to receive came from forged hotmail.com accounts. Very little spam actually comes from hotmail, so I don't want to just block them since there are some legitimate correspondents of mine that use their mail (heck, I use a hotmail address sometimes when I'm on the road..)Ron Guilmette has patches that do this for Postfix at <http://www.monkeys.com/anti-spam/filtering/additions.html>. I tried them but had too many false positives, even for the commonly forged domains like hotmail. They did catch some spam though it never more than 2 or 3% of the daily filtered total.
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- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd ark (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Frederick M Avolio (Jul 17)
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- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Marcus J. Ranum (Jul 18)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Frederick M Avolio (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd ark (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Roger Marquis (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Joseph S D Yao (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Bennett Todd (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Rick Murphy (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Joseph S D Yao (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Roger Marquis (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Brian Hatch (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Dominik Miklaszewski (Jul 17)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Devdas Bhagat (Jul 18)
- Re: FWTK and smap/smapd Greg Polanski (Jul 18)
- RE: FWTK and smap/smapd Karl Vogel (Jul 18)
