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Re: FWTK and smap/smapd
From: Frederick M Avolio <fred () avolio com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:05:07 -0400
At 07:06 AM 7/17/02 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
I am willing to hold my breath for a while and believe that Fred can grok sendmail in toto, and Marcus can grok postfix in toto. ;-) I don't.
No, and your point is an essential point that many miss. And I think it bears a brief focus (and if you are reading this, the moderator agreed). Even Eric Allman (father of Sendmail), cannot understand a program with 10s of thousands of lines of C code. It is way too complex. But we could look at 10 lines and come up with a high level of assurance that a server like this is bug free and safe. We can do it less easily with 100 lines, or even 1000 lines.* Though our level of assurance might be less, it is still possible. We -- no one, is what I mean -- could never do that with 80,000 lines of code.
[* Okay, I used to be a programmer, but now I would fall back to old habits and ask Rick or Marcus for help. :-)]
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