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RE: stealth ports and IDS


From: Bruce Platt <Bruce () ei3 com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:35:08 -0400

One can build a stackless kernel for linux.  I've done it.  Using make
menuconfig, or make xconfig, whatever, remove TCP/IP support from the
kernel.  May as well remove the other transport layer choices as well.

You will need a new ifconfig.  I built mine as well as other utilities using
the net-tools packages.  I have heard that newer releases of RH will provide
this without using net-tools.

This is at the heart of hogwash in stealth mode, see:
http://hogwash.sourceforge.net/ and find the writeup by Michael Karagiannis
listed  the main page under Stackless Hogwash Howto.


Regards,

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul D. Robertson [mailto:proberts () patriot net]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:09 AM
To: James X
Cc: firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com
Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] stealth ports and IDS


On 3 Oct 2002, James X wrote:

One stumbling box has been the idea of a stealth port.  I usually
operate my IDS boxes with the interfaces in stealth mode ie no IP
address or stack. I do not know of a way of acheiving this 
using linux
or netBSD etc.. and without it I would feel rather 
vulnerable. To help

Maybe it's just me, but how about just not putting an IP 
address on the 
interface?  

I doubt you can get away with not puting IP in the kernel, 
but I really 
don't know enough about how libpcap does its thing to say for sure...

Paul
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