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Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts?
From: Chris Pugrud <chris () pugrud net>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:09 -0700 (PDT)
Reading the first few responses there are some obvious misinterpretations of what is being said in the article. If you read the article closely, each of the networks mentioned are currently being run air-gapped, or effectively air-gapped via hardware encryption. An organization that maintains links to each of the networks must bring in seperate links for each network, an expensive process essentially tripling costs. The networks are air-gapped for good reason. What is being investigated is methods or opportunities for utilizing a common backbone, rather than maintaining multiple backbones. It is actually a very challenging research problem as you look at the complexities, and I imagine the organization that can get it right, with rigorous verification and proof, will be very well rewarded. Imagine building and maintaining a VPN with many thousand endpoints and correctly governing the operation and conenctions of that VPN. The networks are physically separate because an air-gap is the only proven method of maintaining separation. As for "recent compromises in encryption", what was shown to have potential compromises are hash algorythms. Birthday attacks in hash algorythms are known, what has been identified is much more efficient methods in finding and creating these attacks. This does not compromise encryption, it compromises authentication. None of this traffic will traverse the public Internet backbone. That was not a direct quote, so I admit I'm intriguied as to what was really being said or thought. Receating the numerous layers of defense in depth that protect DoD organizations from malware, flooding, jamming, and attack at multiple locations would seem much more expensive than some long haul OC-48's. Architecurally I can see some good, and secure, ways to do it, but only if you willing to accept the SLA of the Internet (I hope it's still working today). -- chris --- Gary Flynn <flynngn () jmu edu> wrote:
http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/26971-1.html -- Gary Flynn Security Engineer James Madison University _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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Current thread:
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts?, (continued)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Paul D. Robertson (Aug 22)
- RE: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Eugene Kuznetsov (Aug 22)
- RE: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Paul D. Robertson (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Christopher Hicks (Aug 20)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? George Capehart (Aug 23)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Paul D. Robertson (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Matt Curtin (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Christopher Hicks (Aug 23)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Chris Pugrud (Aug 22)
- Re: Top Secret DOD Data over the Public Internet? Thoughts? Kevin Sheldrake (Aug 22)
