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RE: Vlan's as effective security measures?
From: "Melson, Paul" <PMelson () sequoianet com>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:01:11 -0500
-----Original Message-----
1. A surprising number of network devices' VLAN implementations
will leak packets between VLANs under heavy loads, or in some
cases randomly all the time.
2, Some switches have a single forwarding database which includes
VLAN tags and a host presenting a carefully chosen MAC address
can sometimes hijack traffic for a host on another VLAN.
3. Some switches flood ARP requests across VLANs.
4. Some switches flood all traffic under heavy load.
5. Few switches and routers have adequate configuration security.
Don't depend on VLANs to guarantee the separation of two networks
that *must* be separated. Your security is only as good as the
weakest element in your infrastructure and the security of most
switches (and to a lesser extent routers) is pretty weak.
I'd like to expand on what John said by stating that the proper use of VLANs can significantly improve security. For example, the use of Private VLANs can improve security on a firewall DMZ network. It's all about knowing where and why to use them as part of your access controls. There's a good white paper (though clearly Cisco-centric) on VLAN security available here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_white_paper09186a008013159f.shtml Also, I'd like to add my subjective opinion about switch flooding, which is that most high-end switches cannot be stressed out by traffic arriving on a small number of ports. If a core switch within your organization leaks traffic because of packet flooding, this can often be cured by contacting the manufacturer for an updated software/firmware image. If it can't be fixed by software, well, you most likely got what you paid for. PaulM _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Vlan's as effective security measures? Ware, Larry (Feb 09)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? John Hall (Feb 09)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? avraham shir-el (arthur sherman) (Feb 11)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? John Hall (Feb 12)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Daniel Linder (Feb 12)
- Transparent proxying jm (Feb 12)
- Re: Transparent proxying Luke Butcher (Feb 12)
- Re: Transparent proxying kaptain (Feb 12)
- Re: Transparent proxying Ng Pheng Siong (Feb 13)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? avraham shir-el (arthur sherman) (Feb 11)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? John Hall (Feb 09)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Vlan's as effective security measures? Melson, Paul (Feb 10)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Brian Ford (Feb 12)
- Re: Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Brian Ford (Feb 12)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Todd Joseph (Feb 13)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Brian Ford (Feb 16)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Todd Joseph (Feb 13)
- RE: Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? hugh_fraser (Feb 16)
- Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Jeremiah Cornelius (Feb 20)
- RE: Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? Brian Ford (Feb 16)
- RE: Re: Vlan's as effective security measures? hugh_fraser (Feb 20)
