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Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?
From: Paul Robertson <proberts () patriot net>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 07:51:03 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Gadi Evron wrote:
Most consumers are so unprotected (and ignorant, though that's not their fault) it's terrifying.Whose fault is it than? :)
1. The attacker's faults for attacking. 2. The information security community for not ensuring they get the protection they need. 3. The vendors for not providing applications/platforms which take security into account 4. The service providers for not agressively fixing their customers. #2 includes everyone on this list- We're the "professionals" here when it comes to protective information security- and we haven't done nearly enough to fix this. It's the main reason I did the www.personalfirewallday.org site, and it's why I'll be continuing to update the site and try to raise the advocacy bar moving forward. It ISN'T the consumer's fault because we haven't even let them know *how much* of a problem they have. It's one thing to call the consumers stupid, and another thing entirely to do something about it. I don't mind if folks want to support my approach or do something positive that they think is more effective. I do mind when we all sit back, throw our hands up and say how bad things are without trying to fix it. It's our profession, and that makes it our responsibility. It doesn't have to be our fault to be our responsibility. Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions proberts () patriot net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." probertson () trusecure com Director of Risk Assessment TruSecure Corporation _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?, (continued)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Patrick M. Hausen (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Chris Blask (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Patrick M. Hausen (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? mlh (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gwendolynn ferch Elydyr (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
