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Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP?
From: "Paul D. Robertson" <paul () compuwar net>
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:04:00 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Darren Reed wrote:
No. It's like I have a viewpoint on how to setup, configure, and manage a network which was formed years before UPnP was invented.Right and now that viewpoint is growing stale. The IT industry is very dynamic, you need to grow and move with the times or get left behind.
Security is about staid and static- that's part of the issue of why it's difficult to inject it into companies that don't have a real driver for it. Those very dynamics are WHY we have the problems we have today- active content without a security model, protocols without any length limits, closed systems being "Webified," loaders that run anything dynamically. All these are the technological bits of the problem we face daily. Security needs to be a governor on the dynamic.
I'm happier setting up a fileserver which does not allow end-users shell access, for example, or which forbids setuid- execution in the partition where user home directories are kept.*yawn* More chest beating. These things are "old hat".
Come on, "old hat" or "growing stale?" We don't get to have it both ways. Trust takes time. Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions paul () compuwar net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 01)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Chuck Swiger (Jun 01)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 01)
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- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Chuck Swiger (Jun 02)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 02)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Chuck Swiger (Jun 02)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 04)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Paul D. Robertson (Jun 04)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 04)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Paul D. Robertson (Jun 04)
- RE: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? FirewallAdmin (Jun 10)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 01)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Chuck Swiger (Jun 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Siju George (Jun 02)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Nils Vogels (Jun 04)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Siju George (Jun 16)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 17)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Ben Lindsey (Jun 18)
- Re: Is NAT in OpenBSD PF UPnP enabled or Non UPnP? Darren Reed (Jun 17)
