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RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider
From: "Andrew Plato" <andrew.plato () anitian com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:06:02 -0800
1. I know ISS's language to some extent because I helped develop the engine inside their product (I worked at Network ICE before ISS bought them.) Some are simple pattern matches, many are not. 2. I am familiar with Snort's rules (although I do not profess to be an expert). I also know that Snort's rules, while very powerful and flexible, are WELL beyond the capability of 90% of the IT and network admins in the world. Most organizations don't take the time (nor do they have the time) to analyze signatures. They are more consumed with things like productivity and performance. I know this from my experience (10+ years) as an IT consultant. Thus my point - while seeing the details of a signature is fascinating to security geeks, it is not terribly important to the vast majority of IT admins. As such, I don't think the ability to see signature specs is an important measure of the value of an IPS/IDS product. It may be important to security nerds, but the general IT/network admin population doesn't care that much. And frankly, products that do show their signature details are rarely changed anyways. ___________________________________ Andrew Plato, CISSP President/Principal Consultant ANITIAN ENTERPRISE SECURITY 3800 SW Cedar Hills Blvd, Suite 280 Beaverton, OR 97005 503-644-5656 Office 503-214-8069 Fax 503-201-0821 Mobile www.anitian.com ___________________________________ GPG fingerprint: 16E6 C5B0 B6CB F287 776E E9A9 AF47 9914 3582 633D GPG public key available at: http://www.anitian.com/corp/keys.htm -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Berry [mailto:jberry () PENSON COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:50 AM To: Andrew Plato; Stephane; rick.brady () libertymutual com Cc: focus-ids () securityfocus com Subject: RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Since you can't see the signature, how do you know they aren't doing simple string matching? Second, obviously you aren't very familiar with Snort's rule language, it isn't just simple string matching, there is a *ton* of other logic available to reduce false positives/negatives. Snort also has conveniently had support for PCRE matching for a long time now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider, (continued)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Dahl-Hansen, Kjetil (Mar 16)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Joshua Berry (Mar 16)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Peter Schawacker (Mar 16)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Mark Teicher (Mar 16)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider David W. Goodrum (Mar 19)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Palmer, Paul (ISSAtlanta) (Mar 16)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider THolman (Mar 16)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Sasser (Mar 19)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Mark Teicher (Mar 16)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider THolman (Mar 16)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Andrew Plato (Mar 16)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Andre Ludwig (Mar 19)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Prashant Khandelwal (Mar 24)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Andre Ludwig (Mar 19)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Adam Powers (Mar 19)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Chris Harrington (Mar 19)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider KoƧ.net (Mar 19)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Mark Teicher (Mar 19)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Martin Roesch (Mar 19)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Mark Teicher (Mar 24)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Devdas Bhagat (Mar 28)
- Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Martin Roesch (Mar 19)
- RE: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider Nigel Lewis (Mar 19)
