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Exploit-based signature is dead, or not?


From: "tanyoo10" <tanyoo10 () 163 com>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:20:50 +0800

Greetings to everyone.

  I have some questions about exploit-based and vulnerability-based signature of IDS.

  I heard that exploit-based signature is dead (useless), since vulnerability-based signatures are more effective than 
exploit-based signatures in that they can detect unknown exploits if a vulnerability can be utilized by many exploits. 
However, I don't agree with this argument, for the following reasons: 
(1) When a vulnerability is unknown, exploit-based might be a good solution. 
(2) Exploit-based signatures are still irrepetable for early defense of zero-day worms or zero-day exploits, since 
exploit-based signatures can be generated more timely. 
(3) In the perfect world, we need to generate both types of signatures (even finally we only use vulnerability-based 
signature in detection). That way we not only know we were attacked, but we know with what type of exploit; or that 
it's a new unknown variant of an exploit. That's useful information in and of itself. 

        To support the above viewpoints, I have some concrete questions needed to be answered: 
(1) Were there some attacks that have exploit-based signature but have not vulnerability-based signature? Can someone 
give me some exmples? 
(2) Were there some examples to show that exploit-based signatures were generated much quickly and timely than the 
generation of vulnerability-based signatures for the historical worms or attacks ? 
(3) Does current IDS (e.g. Snort) use both signature types of exploit-based and vulnerability? If so, what percentage 
of sigantures are exploit-based? 
     
 
Thanks for you any input of discussing "exploit-based vs. vulnerability-based signature" ! 





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