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From: full-disclosure () lists netsys com (HggdH)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:26:46 -0600

FYI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Declan McCullagh" <declan () well com>
To: <glenn.wolf () we-inc com>
Cc: <bugtraq () securityfocus com>; <vuln-dev () securityfocus com>;
<rforno () infowarrior org>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 08:12
Subject: Re: Comment on DMCA, Security, and Vuln Reporting]


[I subscribe to bugtraq but haven't seen Glenn's message appear. It did go
out to vuln-dev, and someone forwarded the message to me. I'm not on
vuln-dev; feel free to forward this to the list.]

"Wolf, Glenn" <glenn.wolf () we-inc com> wrote:
In light of the fact that 2600 was successfully sued over merely linking to
DeCSS source code under the DMCA (and losing a subsequent appeal), and
especially since News.com mentioned that fact in their article, I'm
absolutely AMAZED that they would do just that, linking directly to exploit
code in three separate places in the article!!!  Oh, and HP is apparently a
corporate sponsor of News.com (by the ad banners that pop up on their
site).
I wonder how THIS will play out...

I'm the author of the CNET News.com article, though I do not speak for my
employer. Three points:

* 2600 was sued for *posting* the DeCSS.exe utility, not for linking to it:
http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/MPAA_DVD_cases/20000114_ny_mpaa_complaint.html
Defendant Eric Corley a/k/a Emmanuel Goldstein also posted DeCSS on his
Internet web site...

* The judge in the case crafted a rule limiting but not banning linking:
http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/MPAA_DVD_cases/20000830_ny_amended_opinion.pdf
there may be no injunction against, nor liability for, linking to a site
containing circumvention technology, the offering of which is unlawful
under the DMCA, absent clear and convincing evidence that [lots of details]

* When I was at Wired News, we joined an amicus brief in the 2600 case that
said journalists should have the right to link to controversial material
such as DeCSS.exe:
http://www.politechbot.com/docs/linking-amicus.012601.html

-Declan




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