Re: Security Industry Under Scrutiny: Part One

[Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>]

The main point behind the rants of these lame kids is that once their
little hacks and sploit tools are well known and defended against theres
far less havoc they can raise on other peoples systems and networks.  Tis
the whole crux of their foundation.  Pisses em off to have their "trade
secrets" announced to the world.  The best thing others can do when these
children seek a soapbox is to ignore them, so those that have filtered
their crap do not have to read 10-20 responces from others allowing them a
soapbox.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne


On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Len Rose wrote:

> Let's also not forget the systems people who would rather know about problems
> so they can at least mitigate the situation by finding work-arounds, apply firewall
> or router filters, and/or disable services.
>
> It's unacceptable to be left in the dark, no matter what the cost because the people
> who aren't aware of a problem can't defend their hosts or networks.
>
> Complaining about so-called whitehats, and the security community doesn't address
> the above.
>
> People have a right to know about problems, assuming that the researcher is kind
> enough to share the information.
>
> Len
>
>
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