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RE: EMPIRICAL SECURITY ADVISORY 0x02


From: empirical () hushmail com (empirical () hushmail com)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:44:55 -0700

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Not to be picky but you have a couple errors in your advisory t
hat I feel
I must correct.

Please, share.

Also your calculation of the unit "Manzuik" was way off.

Steve Manzuik (hellNbak)
Height: 5' 5"
Width: 5' 5"
Weight: 350lbs
(this unit of measurement henceforth referred to as a "Manzui
k")

It is more like Height:  6' 3"
               Width:   1' 3"
               Weight:  250lbs

And these numbers are not even exact.  Height can change with m
y state of
arrousal (hows that for a mental picture....) as can width.  We
ight, well
that is easily plus or minus 30lbs depending on a number of fac
tors.

This is, mathematically, impossible.  And is so for a number of reasons.

First, the pressure equation:

P = F / A

where P is pressure, F is force, and A is area.

Area equation:

A = L * W

where A is area, L is legth, and W is width.

If you're 6' 3", the accepted norm of foot size for a person of that height is 11 inches in length, and 4 inches width.

So, the area of your foot would be:

A = 11in. * 4in.
A = 44in. sq.

At 250lbs, you'd exert the following pressure:

P = 250lbs / 44in. sq.
P = 5.68181.. lbs./sq. inch

Almost 6lbs. per square inch!  Now, anybody here that's seen you squish along like the large, sea-going creature you 
are knows you fudged your weight a little, and not by just 30 lbs.

The actual problem here is that, for a person of your alleged size and stature, you'd have to have some sort of 
infrastructure to support it.  You see, one can not stack 250lbs. of shit to a height of 6' 3" without supporting the 
pile with something solid.  And, well, let's face it Steve.  You're spineless.  Just like good 'ole Jeff (rfp), Chris 
(weld pond), Jay Dyson (cancer omega), Mohammad Bagta (phc), you don't have a solid thing inside you that you haven't 
absorbed.

Alas, I think you've not only fudged your weight, but also your height.  Fudged along with any idea you've ever had.  
VulnWatch is an example.  The Open Source Vulnerability Database is another one.  Oh, and let's not forget CSICON.  
Much like you, all incredible successes.

So yeah, based on the numbers, and the forgotten gas ratio, you
don't want
any more than 8 Manzuik on the elevator.  But most elevator con
tain
redundant cabling and braking systems so this vulnerability is
nothing
but theoretical.

Which "gas ratio" would you be speaking of?  Surely not Boyle's Gas Law.  According to Boyle's Gas Law, Pressure and 
Volume are directly inproportional.  And as anybody that's had the esteemed pleasure of being around you knows, 
atmospheric pressure does NOT affect the amount of hot air you're full of at any given time.

Boy, its nice to be loved enough that I get the honor of being
used in
this example.  Do you mind if I attach this advisory to my resu
me, I am
sure I can drive up my consulting fees with it.

From what I've heard, almost anything would at this point, including A+ certification.  Word about the whole E & Y 
thing gets around.  Of course, your professionalism regarding the HP issue, where you told HP to "stick your resume up 
their collective ass" was pretty priceless too.  This is why you, and the rest of the bunch you associate with, have 
little or no significance and credibility.  You all lack one thing that will forever elude you:  honor.

I digress, you may use this advisory freely.  Unlike people that have to whine about their information being reused by 
others (Guninski and TESO will remain nameless), I extend the courtesy to anybody by not attempting to leverage a 
frivilious copyright.

Speaking of TESO, has anybody ever noticed that scut looks like Deeta from SNL?

PS:  Eat me bitch.

One final note:  there are several million starving people in Africa.  If I were to end up with a fucking Manatee like 
you in my nets, I'd send you somewhere you could at least do some good.

Just like Jeff, Chris, Jay, Len, and the rest of the bunch here, you'll only ever be one thing Steve:  something you're 
not.
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