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Re: Re: Funny article
From: David Maynor <dave () 0dayspray com>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:50:44 -0500
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:20:14AM +0100, Mikael Olsson wrote:
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the script kiddies don't care about zealotry. I have yet to hear one say "Oh, this is a Linux box, so I can't use this Apache bug to own it. That'd be rong."
I don't think anybody said a linux box can't be owned with an apache flaw. My arugemnt for count of bugs is the should be counted against the people who actually WROTE the code. In Microsofts case it is becasue they wrote IIS, 2000/XP/2003, and Exchange. In contrast the Linux kernel projecn that just wrote the kernel. It sounds like you want a list of opensource bugs vs. Microsoft Bugs.
Saying "the linux kernel has only foo bugs while every microsoft app combined has foo^3 bugs" makes no sense in a security discussion. You don't read mail or serve web pages with a kernel.
No one is saying this. To be truely useful a list of bugs should be done by developer, not by instance of software. This will help establish trends in my software development practices.
Publishing an _unbiased_ report of total vulnerability counts for two or more OSes, with common apps installed, is a service to admins everywhere. (And no, I _really_ don't think comparing RH6 with W2K3 is "unbiased". I think it stinks.)
I think blaming OS developers for code they didn't write nor have any control over isn't unbiased. It would be a diffrent story if it was a flaw in something like redhat-update. That is clearly a Redhat bug, but that is still not a Linux bug. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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