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RE: Clear text password exposure in Datakey's tokens and smartcards
From: Curt Sampson <cjs () cynic net>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 07:39:53 +0900 (JST)
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Dana Hudes wrote:
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 Bart.Lansing () kohls com wrote:RSA has been doing PIN cards for ages...I don't get the hangup on SmartCards vs "plain old" something you have/something you know two factoras I understand it a "PIN Card" is a card with an EEPROM on it that contains a PIN. Possibly encrypted but its the same effect as any other file. The host decides if the PIN matches.
The RSA SecurID system is a hardware token that generates a new number every minute using a sequence generator and a seed that is effectively a shared secret between the hardware token and the authentication server. You take the current minute's number and, usually, some other authentication information (such as a PIN or password) and pass both of those back to the authentication server, which will then determine whether the authentication is valid. It's a bit expensive, but it works ok. RSA also sells "software tokens" which are the same thing, but as software that runs on a PC or handheld. This is particularly expensive for what you get, since the token is easily copied from the device, with no indication that it's been stolen. (At least with the hardware tokens you know when it's been stolen.) And it's also quite expensive: they charge $25-$80 for a "1 year" software token. I wish I had the gall to sell large quantities of 128 bit random numbers for $25 each. cjs -- Curt Sampson <cjs () cynic net> +81 90 7737 2974 http://www.NetBSD.org Don't you know, in this new Dark Age, we're all light. --XTC _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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