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RE: MyDoom download info
From: Steve Wray <steve.wray () paradise net nz>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:03:37 +1300
From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of first lastGiven that its possible for a program to detect that its being run under a debugger, wouldn't it be possible for a virus to behave differently in the debug environment?Yes. But todays computer viruses are very simple and very weak. Wait a few years and they should be a lot more powerful.
I've often thought that none of the viruses so far encountered on the net are actually serious. What worries me are the viruses that have been around for a while and which have, so far, not been detected; these are the serious viruses (I'm assuming that they exist). Viruses that *don't* send vast amounts of email and hence get detected; viruses that *don't* run under a debugger, that *don't* give themselves away.
[...]IE: how do you know that the behavior you see in the lab reflects behavior in the real world? (I get a kind of 'schrodingers cat' deja vu).You can always disassemble the virus, which is what people will do if it's a real "popular" one such as MyDoom.
IIRC there are viruses that are encrypted and are almost impossible to disassemble? Would that be true? _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- Re[2]: MyDoom download info, (continued)
- Re[2]: MyDoom download info Papp Geza (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Scott Taylor (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Daniel Spisak (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Scott Taylor (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 31)
- Re: MyDoom download info Oliver Schneider (Jan 31)
- Re: MyDoom download info Daniel Spisak (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Roland Dobbins (Jan 31)
- mydoom.exe decyphering? Danny (Jan 31)
- Re: [Full-Disc]: mydoom.exe decyphering? Anders (Jan 31)
- RE: MyDoom download info first last (Jan 30)
- RE: MyDoom download info Steve Wray (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 31)
- Re: MyDoom download info Paul Schmehl (Jan 31)
- RE: MyDoom download info Steve Wray (Jan 31)
- RE: MyDoom download info Bojan Zdrnja (Jan 31)
- RE: MyDoom download info Steve Wray (Jan 30)
- Re: MyDoom download info Puneet Arora (Jan 31)
- RE: MyDoom download info Steve Wray (Jan 30)
