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Re: No shell => secure?
From: Kevin Ponds <kponds () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:11:19 -0500
As has been discussed, really all you're doing is preventing against canned exploits. You're also going to be jumping ALOT of hoops to do this. There are different ways to achieve the same result, look into canary stack protection (such as propolice), and a "write or execute" stack, such as W^X on OpenBSD or PaX on Linux. Applying one of these will at least force an attacker to write a custom exploit for your configuration, and will give you alot less headaches than running without shells or renaming file structure. However as has been said many times before, security through obscurity isn't really security at all. It can buy you time and deter alot of folks, but it won't make you secure. Ponds On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:14:07 +0545, npguy <npguy () websurfer com np> wrote:
On Friday 09 July 2004 08:19 am, hax wrote:2) That'd stop a lot of skript kiddies, I guess, but it'd be pretty trivial to just rework the shellcode to call some other command instead of /bin/sh.if this is single target. attacker can guess your setting and keeping executing any commands it could possible target to execute more attack what about wget from shellcode. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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Current thread:
- No shell => secure? Matthias Benkmann (Jul 08)
- Re: No shell => secure? hax (Jul 08)
- Re: No shell => secure? npguy (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Kevin Ponds (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Matthias Benkmann (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Ron DuFresne (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Barry Fitzgerald (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Vincent Archer (Jul 12)
- Re: No shell => secure? daniel uriah clemens (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? npguy (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? hax (Jul 08)
- Re: No shell => secure? Nick FitzGerald (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Ron DuFresne (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Matthias Benkmann (Jul 09)
- Re: No shell => secure? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 09)
