Re: Re: controversial shadowcrew site hacked by secret service?

[GuidoZ <uberguidoz () gmail com>]

I'm not trying to take sides, although KF has made a very good point.
I see a handful of people complaining about the list. Face the facts:
it's unmoderated. That was a known fact when we all signed up and
shouldn't be overlooked now. Allow me to elaborate a bit.

Obviously it's your choice to continue to subscribe or not. I think
the point KF was trying to make (eloquently or not =) was that you (or
anyone else complaining) are very welcome to unsubscribe (and
subscribe the a moderated version instead if you choose). Either way,
complaints sent to the list do nothing but waste MORE bandwidth/time
and cause the same effect the person is complaining about.

I have setup a handful of filters that sort out what I prefer not to
read about. Personally, I like the freedom of knowing I get to choose
what I see, not what a moderator thinks I should see. It's actually
one of the reasons I have stayed on the list even through the obvious
BS that has been posted at times. Instead of complaining, do something
constructive about it. Setup filters. Unsubscribe. Move to a moderated
mirror instead. (KF was even nice enough to include a link for you so
you wouldn't have to go hunting.)

My 2 cents. Spend it how you wish.

--
Peace. ~G


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:17:29 -0000, raza <raza () raza demon co uk> wrote:
> The only thing you shud be served is a big...fu** off...lame person
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KF_lists [mailto:kf_lists () secnetops com]
> Sent: 18 November 2004 20:00
> To: raza
> Cc: 'n3td3v'; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: controversial shadowcrew site hacked
> by secret service?
>
> Waaaaaaaaaaaa theres sand in my vagina... I think I'll unsubscribe
> myself.
>
> STFU and subscribe to the moderated version.
> http://lists.seifried.org/mailman/listinfo/security
>
> As Skylined put it... if ya can't take the heat... get the fark out of
> the kitchen. And while you are at it cook something up already.
> -KF
>
> raza wrote:
> > Guys you know what ?
> >
> > This mailing list and the dribble some people chat on it is p*SSing me
> > off big time.
> >
> > This used to be a good list and some arse holes are bring the
> bullshit
> > uprightness , politics and US government rules the world ..  view to
> > this otherwise excellent Security Info's.
> >
> > I had enough of it. either take your politics else where back to the
> > People who give a fu** or get back to the posts that are relevant.
> >
> > I reckon many will leave this list.
> >
> > R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of n3td3v
> > Sent: 18 November 2004 16:03
> > To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: controversial shadowcrew site
> hacked
> > by secret service?
> >
> > Ok, so it was the secret service who put a new homepage up, but have
> > the secret service done this before with other sites, or is this the
> > first time?
> >
> > I wish they wouldn't do it in future, its looks too "we own you" kid
> > behaviour.
> >
> > Thanks,n3td3v
> >
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