RE: Character vulnerabilities

["wilder_jeff Wilder" <wilder_jeff () msn com>]

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      WOOO HOOOOO!!!!! I'll second that

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-Jeff Wilder
CISSP,CCE,C/EH



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> From: Peer Janssen <peer () baden-online de>
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> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Character vulnerabilities
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> Hi list,
>
> I read so many postings on this list of people who seemingly do not control 
> their anger, fury etc. which seems to bump their heads straight at their 
> ceilings.
>
> Do you really consider this as qualities of a security 
> researcher/consultant/employee/...?
>
> I'd rather consider them vulnerabilities which might expose them to social 
> engineering attacks or to being blinded by their own rage, which can easily 
> result in destructive carelessness in many areas.
>
> I don't think that it makes a good publicity for a company to work with 
> security people not mastering themselves. Why would you entrust them with 
> your systems if they react so emotionally? Shouldn't they rather be 
> clear-minded, rational, controlling themselves, etc., when dealing in any 
> way with security issues?
>
> So please, do yourself and those around you a favor and change; you CAN do 
> it, and you will make everybody happier, and youself more efficient, if 
> happyness is not your thing.
>
> So cheer up, and take it a bit more easily!
> Peer
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