Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)

["Jamie C. Pole" <jpole () jcpa com>]

I'm not a blind apologist that is willing to defend everything that  
has been done, but if you want to go down that road, Germany is not  
entirely innocent of human rights violations.

I translate documents for historians, and I can promise that Germany  
has done far worse things.  We are not looking for leibensraum - we  
are just looking to be safe.

Given the history of terrorist activity in Germany, I'm really  
surprised that you feel the way you do - your government is  
benefitting from the intelligence that is being gathered as well.   
Thankfully, Ms. Merkel seems to understand that.

JCP


On Dec 18, 2005, at 10:24 PM, GroundZero Security wrote:

> indeed and thats not the onlyone. in iraq some cap driver got  
> carried away because
> his customer happened to be a terrorist. how should he know ? he  
> got taken to some
> prisoner camp, tortured for 3 months and then when they noticed he  
> isnt a terrorist but
> an ordinary taxi driver, he got sent back home the same whey he got  
> carried away - in chains.
> so much for human rights. thats why those camps arent in usa so u.s  
> law doesnt count.
> its really sad that something like those camps is still possible in  
> our modern times.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.A. Terranson" <measl () mfn org>
> To: "Jamie C. Pole" <jpole () jcpa com>
> Cc: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about  
> recent events.(fwd)
>
>
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Jamie C. Pole wrote:
> >
> > > If you are not a terrorist, and do not associate with terrorists,
> > > you have nothing to worry about.
> >
> > Like the guy we kidnapped in Germany, tortured for a year and then
> > released with a "Oh, wrong guy.  Sorry."?
> >
> > --
> > Yours,
> >
> > J.A. Terranson
> > sysadmin () mfn org
> > 0xBD4A95BF
> >
> >
> > Just once, can't we have a nice polite discussion about
> > the logistics and planning side of large criminal enterprise?
> >
> > - Steve Thompson
> >
> >
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