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Re: Reuters: Microsoft to give holes info
From: <derek () angelofsin net>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:58:01 +0100
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:33:46 CST, "Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu" said: ============================ Critical infrastructure: If it dies, things start breaking *very* badly, very quickly. If a PC directly related to managing calls in an E911 center dies, then emergency calls don't get routed. That's critical infrastructure. -===snip a few example cases===- Now tell me - what percent of government systems, if they were suddenly and unexpectedly unplugged from the network, would result in a partial or complete loss of network functionality? Things like routers, mail servers, Active Directory servers, and so on - *those* are "critical infrastructure". ============================ I believe the argument here is over one simple factor, and I disagree with you on this point. Critical infrastructure refers to anything that takes down a lot of other things when it collapses--you said this, and I agree completely. However, in your argument you focus upon critical network infrastructure as if it is the only critical infrastructure. It is not. There are network components that are critical parts of judicial, private, or corporate infrastructure. These devices and their status may be of little concern to the *network*, but they may be of great concern to the *society* in which they are deployed. For instance, if the entire IRS database (and all backups) went up in a puff of smoke, the internet as a whole would likely experience only a small disturbance. This does not, however, mean that the IRS machines are not critical infrastructure; it merely means that the IRS machines are not critical *network* infrastructure. If the IRS or the GAO collapsed, there would be a pronounced disruption in governmental services (and hopefully someone would find a way to keep things operating without funding until a new accounting system could be deployed because things could get quite messy... imagine the economic impact of thousands of federal employees receiving no pay for weeks, and remember that this is just one aspect of American activity that is directly affected by federal financing). To sum it all up, you narrowed the scope of critical infrastructure to include only critical network infrastructure, and I do not see that sufficient justification was given for doing so. --- Derek Durski derek () angelofsin net _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://www.secunia.com/
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