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Re: Forensic help?


From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:46:26 +1200

James Wicks top-posting to someone:

Symantec Ghost was not presented as a means of getting a forensic duplicate. 
As stated in my first response, the Ghost image is to be added to the new 
drive and that drive is placed in the suspect desktop so that it can be 
placed back into production. That would leave the suspect drive available 
for any type of forensic investigation, whether it is done internally or 
sent out to another company. I normally do not want to leave a user without 
a desktop just because I need to investigate something. Since this is a case 
of data deletion/recovery and not an investigation of suspected 
torjan/rootkit, getting the system back into production using a Ghosted 
drive is (in my opinion) a business-practical course of action.
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Ghost will not give you a forensically sound image. Unless something
changes recently, Ghost won't image unallocated space, so you won't be able
to recover any deleted files. I'd recommend using the Helix Live CD at
http://www.e-fense.com/helix/, which based on Knoppix, but will never 
automatically mount any disks found, as Knoppix will.
<<snip>>

I understand forensic analysis was not part of James' intention in the 
suggested use of Ghost, and I believe the OP used the term "forensic" 
incorrectly in the Subject: line, so there is not necessarily a 
mismatch there, though James' suggested approach allows for the 
preservation of the original drive...

Anyway, much as I am an _only very occasional_ user of Ghost, I don't 
think I've ever used it NOT to make a sector-level, or raw disk image, 
style drive copy.  However, as I last used it so long ago, I decided to 
check I was not mis-remembering -- two seconds at Google turned up this 
URL discussing "...the Ghost switches to use for forensic imaging or 
for creating raw images (sector copies)..." (URL may wrap):

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/2001111413481325?Op
en&src=&docid=19


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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