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Re: Secure Delete for Windows
From: "GroundZero Security" <fd () g-0 org>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:12:38 +0100
Our software works for NTFS and FAT filesystems and in the new version you can also wipe the free space to get rid of data that is left on unallocated portions of the disk. It was tested against encase which is one of the most popular recovery tools. (apparently has been used to recover data from disks that have been recovered from the WTC incident although we can not confirm that) We could not recover any data in our lab tests. We tested 7 different recovery tools, but encase is the most popular and we dont want to advertise for the rest too :) Our application has not only the DOD wiping standard, but also peter gutmanns algorythm with 38 random overwrites, which is the most secure wiping methode we know of. shred is ok but not good enough to really securely clean data. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Holstein" <michael.holstein () csuohio edu> To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Secure Delete for Windows
An exe? No source??? Just "setup.exe"???? Are you crazy?Or .. get GNU coreutils for windows : http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm and just use 'shred'. (although 'man shred' specifically makes note about journaled filesystems -- which NTFS is. I have not forensically analyzed the effectiveness of this tool on a specific file -- only on a block device). SysInternals also offers a freebie tool called 'sdelete'. Source for that is also available : http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/SDelete.html (and in the discussion about 'how sdelete works' they reference the same problem regarding journeled filesystems). If the emminently wise gent from GroundZero wishes to comment on how his perticular product addresses these issues, then that might be fodder for the list (versus the ongoing flames). Regards, Michael Holstein CISSP GCIA Cleveland State University _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Secure Delete for Windows GroundZero Security (Jan 16)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows J.A. Terranson (Jan 16)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 16)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows Jason Coombs (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows J.A. Terranson (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows GroundZero Security (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows Michael Holstein (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows GroundZero Security (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 17)
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- Re: Secure Delete for Windows J.A. Terranson (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows bkfsec (Jan 18)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows J.A. Terranson (Jan 16)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows GroundZero Security (Jan 17)
- Re: Secure Delete for Windows Yvan Boily (Jan 17)
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