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Re: HTTP AUTH BASIC monowall


From: "Jason Coombs" <jasonc () science org>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:56:43 +0000 GMT

Brian Eaton wrote:
I'd like to see their process
changed so that it included a more
serious check into the business
whose web site they are verifying.

This makes no sense at all, and is simply impossible within the DNS system. Furthermore, all verification done by any 
CA can be easily fooled. Only fools trust any CA.

What's wrong with expecting the end-user to be able to think clearly enough to find out what the *actual* trustworthy 
public key *actually is* for communicating with the *authentic* entity that the end-user wishes to communicate?

Three changes are required:

1. Do away with CA's entirely. Immediately. No sunset period.

2. Every entity that possesses a key pair makes a minimal effort to communicate their authentic public key to the 
people with whom they expect to communicate.

3. Give end-users a simple way to fixate trust within their client software to just the *single* public key that they 
have reason to believe is associated with the entity with whom they intend to communicate, and revoke client software's 
existing open-ended CA-mediated trust model, putting an immediate stop to it entirely.

The only reason this is not done is that Verisign's multimillions in revenue around their CA-related business, and 
their future business plans involving 'security' in general, would cease to exist.

Reliable (and cost-free) security based on common sense would take its place, but nobody really wants security, do 
they? People just want things that are complicated so they can learn secret voodoo business trade secrets and grow new 
business ventures.

People who really want security already have it, so distrust anyone who claims to be able to sell it to you.

Regards,

Jason Coombs
jasonc () science org
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