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Re: **LosseChange::Debunk it??**
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:36:26 -0400
On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:49:39 BST, Pete Simpson said:
In a pancake descent t = 110(2h/110a)1/2. According to my calculator that's just under 90s. So which calculation is incorrect?
That's an incorrect modeling of a pancake descent. For starters, when the structure fails, the top 20 or whatever floors all start descending. They go one or two floors, and meet the first intact floor. Now you can treat this as an inelastic collision, and you now have 21 floors descending at 20/21th of the speed and still accelerating. Then it hits the 22nd floor from the top, and is slowed down even less... by the time it gets 50 or 60 floors down, the top 20 floors have been accelerating for a while, and each additional floor only costs 2% or so of the kinetic energy to accelerate it.
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